tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post4473484837916103498..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Ken's Defeat: It's Just Not Fair!Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83702633067095273052008-08-24T19:23:00.000+01:002008-08-24T19:23:00.000+01:00Communists like red Ken are not used to being thro...Communists like red Ken are not used to being thrown out of power by the people.<BR/><BR/>Red Ken thought he could pull the wool over the eyes of people using his beloved BBC as his poodle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14078906058855517132008-08-24T09:33:00.000+01:002008-08-24T09:33:00.000+01:00Yes Malcom Redfellow Gilligan did write the piece ...Yes Malcom Redfellow Gilligan did write the piece on Boris -<BR/><BR/>I quote<BR/><BR/><EM>So far, on policy, the decisions he has made or signalled - fewer high-rise buildings, LDA reform, greater scepticism about the Olympics and the Met leadership - are clearly correct.</EM><BR/><BR/>It doesn't sound like withdrawal of support to me.<BR/><BR/>The only problem Boris is finding that he needs a different type of team around him - not big egos who expect to build their own empires, but team-players who buy into Boris's abilities, work with him and support him.<BR/><BR/>It can take anyone a while to realise that the biggest image in town is usually the least possible to work with. Boris needs to pick content people as a foil to his leadership skills, not those desperate to boost their own careers. <BR/><BR/>It is a sign of leadership ability that Boris acts as soon as he knows a relationship isn't working. He'll build his team in time, and then he'll be unstoppable.<BR/><BR/>When did Giligan ever manage an office of state? He probably doesn't know how hard it is to get the people bit right. Blair sat with the wrong people for ten long years, even conning the country into taking one of his chief failures as its next PM. Johnson fires immediately if he's not satisfied. Think of the money he'll save!Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56341081481805283952008-08-24T07:20:00.000+01:002008-08-24T07:20:00.000+01:00Nick, Remind me didn't Livingstone current "partne...Nick, Remind me didn't Livingstone current "partner" also work for the Evening Standard too?<BR/><BR/>Which is where these two love birds met.Curbishlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10448537046738555753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16011283560421235262008-08-23T23:36:00.000+01:002008-08-23T23:36:00.000+01:00Yes, well, the previous commentators have thorough...Yes, well, the previous commentators have thoroughly dissed pinko hate-sheets like the <I>FT</I> and <I>Economist</I>.<BR/><BR/>Did I miss the statutory dismissal of the <I>Indy</I>, and Howker and Vallely's treasonable piece: <A HREF="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-south-bank-show-chaos-in-the-court-of-king-boris-906542.html/" REL="nofollow"><I>The South Bank show -- Chaos in the court of King Boris</I>?</A><BR/><BR/>Oh, and wasn't even “It-was-Andy-wot-won-it!”, Gilligan at the <I>Evening Standard</I> <A HREF="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23542274-details/Now+Team+Boris+really+needs+to+get+into+gear/article.do/" REL="nofollow">having a go</A>? <BR/><BR/>Deary me.<BR/><BR/>Alternatively, we could be witnessing the most titanic reverse ferret since the <I>Mail</I>'s in 1939.Malcolm Redfellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11907427518823910875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56256266002972169162008-08-23T23:00:00.000+01:002008-08-23T23:00:00.000+01:00Livingstone and his people weren't complaining abo...Livingstone and his people weren't complaining about the Evening Standard when it was paying him to write restaurant reviews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14952171016934156892008-08-23T18:40:00.000+01:002008-08-23T18:40:00.000+01:00"Read 'lord' hartesley's autobiography for a lefti..."Read 'lord' hartesley's autobiography for a lefties view on elections."<BR/><BR/>not in this lifetime I think the dog vomit would be preferable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76052094450028904892008-08-23T18:16:00.000+01:002008-08-23T18:16:00.000+01:00Still Labour.Your reaction on the BSE 'show trial'...Still Labour.<BR/><BR/>Your reaction on the BSE 'show trial' does you no credit.<BR/><BR/>What's more your assumption that anyone who questions NuLab's actions and honour MUST, by definition be an 'arrogant Tory'.<BR/><BR/>As it happens, in that series of elections and changes of government I referenced, I have voted for all three main parties on different occasions.<BR/><BR/>I assume, that since you view the actions of outgoing governments as perfectly proper reason for public inquiries, you'll have no problem with Tony Blair standing trial before the ICC in the Hague for his bogus claims about WMD in Iraq and committing the UK to war there?<BR/><BR/>Or Gordon Brown being charged with malfeasance for the botched - and unwise and unnecessary - sale of gold reserves?<BR/><BR/>Though I do worry about what is you hope that "Labour Party ever gathers the courage to do the one thing we all know needs to be done" is.<BR/><BR/>Something to do with one of those instruments of potential for State repression you've passed, such as the Civil Contingencies Act, and the potential for suspension of elections?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62829037579074702982008-08-23T17:52:00.000+01:002008-08-23T17:52:00.000+01:00What?? So the killing of 13 people guilty of nothi...<EM>What?? So the killing of 13 people guilty of nothing except (maybe?) marching down the street and the question of who or what was responsible for a catastrophic breakdown in food security are off limits because they were done by the Tories?</EM><BR/><BR/>BSE (Bloody Stupid Enquiry) was another famous non-event. <BR/><BR/>The scientists who pointed out that the disease was not caused by feeding offal, but by ridiculously heavy EU-compulsory doses of Organo-Phosphates, all met with suspicious untimely deaths in car accidents and the like....while the scientists working at the Lab which claimed eating beefburgers would in time, kill tens of millions of people, all became millionaires.<BR/><BR/>I think time has shown that they were talking total bollocks, but at the time the scare was politically convenient to suppress euroscepticism, bury John Major's government, and bring on Blair.<BR/><BR/>The disease in humans did not conform to a pattern consistent with being developed from eating burgers, as it was clustered in small areas. Those that died tragic and early deaths were not killed by beef-burgers.<BR/><BR/>I read one report which indicated that the disease could have been spread by dental instruments, which are now boiled for far longer periods than previously, to ensure this disease cannot spread that way.<BR/><BR/>People trusted the media totally in 1997. After 11 years of Labour government no one believes a word they hear or read any more - and rightly so.<BR/><BR/>Major told the odd fib as most leaders have to do. Blair and Brown lied on the industrial scale.Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76937043624992380252008-08-23T17:31:00.000+01:002008-08-23T17:31:00.000+01:00Livingstone ballsed it up big time when he was in ...Livingstone ballsed it up big time when he was in charge of the GLC. Corruption was endemic and there's no reason to suppose it changed when he was in charge of LondonCatosayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02885445175868379750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19337360984682843492008-08-23T17:29:00.000+01:002008-08-23T17:29:00.000+01:00For a start NuLab began a series of so-called Publ...<I>For a start NuLab began a series of so-called Public Inquiries ('Bloody Sunday', BSE etc) which amounted to nothing more than political show trials of previous Conservative governments and ministers.</I><BR/><BR/>What?? So the killing of 13 people guilty of nothing except (maybe?) marching down the street and the question of who or what was responsible for a catastrophic breakdown in food security are off limits because they were done by the Tories?<BR/><BR/>No wonder you lot lost three elections in a row. Oh, and don't go banking your winnings on contest number four yet either. The fundamental arrogance of the Tories - and their belief that the law is for other people - might trip you up yet if the Labour Party ever gathers the courage to do the one thing we all know needs to be done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70774873030957100802008-08-23T17:26:00.000+01:002008-08-23T17:26:00.000+01:00Boris Ukiploon? I don't think so. Simon Heffer m...Boris Ukiploon? I don't think so. <BR/><BR/>Simon Heffer more like.<BR/><BR/>As for me, planet earth is plenty good enough these days, breathing good clean eurosceptic air - spiced by Boris pointing out all the 'Piffle' that he encounters. Most refreshing actually.<BR/><BR/>Livingstone as a sorrowful Pterodactyl..brilliant.<BR/><BR/>I don't bother at all with the political stench emanating from the mutual fart-breathers - 'The Economist' and 'The FT'. <BR/><BR/>But I still admire their financial analysis. You just have to hold your nose and read it quickly.Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56007097945650064002008-08-23T16:45:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:45:00.000+01:00The left think they have a right to rule however t...The left think they have a right to rule however the commonon masses vote.<BR/><BR/>Read 'lord' hartesley's autobiography for a lefties view on elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10159342300604781702008-08-23T16:44:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:44:00.000+01:00Labour - Oppressive, bullying, unlistening and ign...Labour - <BR/>Oppressive, bullying, unlistening and ignorant in victory; bitter, twisted and in total denial in defeat.<BR/><BR/>Such joy to see them so eaten up by the well deserved defeat of their poster boy Livingstone (yes the same Livingstone that was thrown out of the Labour party but a few short years ago). <BR/><BR/>So very pathetic that with the imminent collapse of their Government, and their party, that rather then accept that the electorate have resoundingly rejected not only their ideas, but their entire approach, they resort to childish sour grapes about one newspaper's coverage rather than learn their lessons, take their defeats like adults and attempt to move forward with what the people of Britain actually want their Government to do.<BR/><BR/>It'll be another 18 years in the political wilderness for Labour thank god.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60147468002926404262008-08-23T16:33:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:33:00.000+01:00They'd prefer breathing their own farts to admitti...<I>They'd prefer breathing their own farts to admitting that Boris is a good Mayor saving Londoners billions</I><BR/><BR/>Don't knock it 'til you've tried it ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9748853948678970222008-08-23T16:30:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:30:00.000+01:00I particularly liked the description that Boris ga...I particularly liked the description that Boris gave of Livingstone hanging about his former place of work `like a Pterodactyl nursing a secret sorrow'. Wonderful image, and spot on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72238028918181315752008-08-23T16:23:00.001+01:002008-08-23T16:23:00.001+01:00Firstly, agree with Geoff H, and now the tactic is...Firstly, agree with Geoff H, and now the tactic is backfiring big time, especially in Scotland. And Ken lost as he started taking his core support for granted. What really did it for him was using the LDA to close down a black run church (in the same week Boris said such churches are really useful in the inner city). And he made a lot of people sick by hosting an Islamic cleric soon after London was bombed. And his supporters going round calling Christians, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs names like slave and infidel and he never tried to stop them. Even went to an aggressive mosque and posed for a photo dressed like some wannabe Taliban.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60443256807806784262008-08-23T16:23:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:23:00.000+01:00Tough Titty, Ken. Life ain't fair.Tough Titty, Ken. Life ain't fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87575948222479829412008-08-23T16:03:00.000+01:002008-08-23T16:03:00.000+01:00Anon at 3:02"Sounds pretty much like a whine to me...Anon at 3:02<BR/><BR/>"Sounds pretty much like a whine to me."<BR/><BR/>Not a whine (or a whinge) but a statement of fact.<BR/><BR/>I've lived through and witnessed several elections and changes of government thereafter starting with 1964 (unlike you, I suspect).<BR/><BR/>At no time following any of these changes ('64, '70, '74 and '79) was there anything to match the atmosphere surrounding '97.<BR/><BR/>For a start NuLab began a series of so-called Public Inquiries ('Bloody Sunday', BSE etc) which amounted to nothing more than political show trials of previous Conservative governments and ministers.<BR/><BR/>Nothing like this ever happened previously. <BR/><BR/>Then there was the 'rebasing' of everything pre '97 as belonging to some political dark ages prior to 'liberation'. 1997 became a Year Zero from when all progress began.<BR/><BR/>And NuLub tinkered with constitution and electoral reforms - not from any serious thought through principal - but simply from a partisan aim at cementing political power in their hands on a permanent basis.<BR/><BR/>Gordon Brown symbolised the attitude with his graceless comment at the Treasury when told that the government's finances had never been sounder; "What do you want me to do, send them a f*ck*ng thank you note?"<BR/><BR/>He compounded by taking a 'not invented by us' attitude to several popular and effective schemes (PEPs and TESSAs for instance) and replacing them with his own, less effective and generous, and more complicated ISAs.<BR/><BR/>So when John Major wrote: "The outgoing Conservative government was to be abused: no piece of character assassination, no calumny, no half-truth, no insult was to be missed" he was bang on the button.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67453188630856527632008-08-23T15:55:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:55:00.000+01:00What the Left don't like is the fact that it was e...What the Left don't like is the fact that it was effective criticism. The Mail, Telegraph etc. can piss in the wind all they like, crying wolf about "socialism", and no one gives a damn. But Gilligan did some very hot forensic research and came up trumps proving Livingstone's malevolent Balkanising of Londoners just to shove us into little Ken-voting boxes.<BR/><BR/>That, on the other hand, is very nasty and unfair in the left's eye, because it was such a damning indictment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52589535665124743292008-08-23T15:47:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:47:00.000+01:00It shows how delusional the Left are. They can nev...It shows how delusional the Left are. They can never be honest about themeselves, or anything else for that matter, and the Left are always very bad losers.<BR/><BR/>What this woman probably doesn't say, is how Livingslime benefitted for many years from very friendly media coverage, like Labour in general, especially from the likes of the BBC, who are far more influential than the Evening Standard. Livingstone did what the hell he liked for 7.5 years, and when finally, he got subjected to some very fair scrutiny of his administration, for 6 months, they piss and moan about how horrible the Evening Standard has been!!! They got exposed very late in the day and should be grateful for the time they had with their snouts in the London taxpayers trough.<BR/><BR/>The Left just don't get the fundamentals of electoral democracy (when they're in power anyway), like administrations being subjected to criticism and scrutiny by the media, for example.<BR/>Given the hostility that the Conservatives have had nationally, from most of the influential media, for many years, I find it very ironic when the Left start bitching about a regional newspaper who gave 'em some grief for 6 months!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57406817848902093792008-08-23T15:43:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:43:00.000+01:00Labour and its supporters are pyschologically inca...Labour and its supporters are pyschologically incapable of accepting anyone else's point of view or that they themselves might just have got it wrong and they keep asking themselves why do these ungrateful voters not vote for us after all we've done for them? It's not fair and they'll scream and scream and stamp their feet until they're sick - so there !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5436997224407827942008-08-23T15:33:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:33:00.000+01:00Joy Johnson is a bitter that she has lost her very...Joy Johnson is a bitter that she has lost her very well paid job. But i suggest somebody submit an FOI on how much redundancy Ken's advisers got - cos the figures reported could be well short of the real figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4878604368393524502008-08-23T15:15:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:15:00.000+01:00They'd prefer breathing their own farts to admitti...<I>They'd prefer breathing their own farts to admitting that Boris is a good Mayor saving Londoners billions, solving the airports conundrum and bringing in the Olympics under budget.</I><BR/><BR/>He's done all that? Cor. Passed me by though. But then I don't live on planet Ukiploon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6523473074105687872008-08-23T15:11:00.001+01:002008-08-23T15:11:00.001+01:00Yes, her whine was pathetic. Remember, I have had ...Yes, her whine was pathetic. Remember, I have had the benefit of reading it, unlike you, I suspect.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66779330372857923512008-08-23T15:11:00.000+01:002008-08-23T15:11:00.000+01:00It's noticeable that the Economist and the FT are ...It's noticeable that the Economist and the FT are trying to dish Boris' Mayoralty this weekend.<BR/><BR/>Neither cannot stomach the fact that he's doing well, is popular and will soon be upstaging the country's chief Euro-traitor in Beijing.<BR/><BR/>They'd prefer breathing their own farts to admitting that Boris is a good Mayor saving Londoners billions, solving the airports conundrum and bringing in the Olympics under budget.Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.com