tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post4397420431835834869..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Should Tory Bloggers Be More Aggressive in Defending Themselves?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-888384600970044622007-06-10T10:24:00.000+01:002007-06-10T10:24:00.000+01:00The left have lost the blogging warWhat a stupid c...<I><B>The left have lost the blogging war</I></B><BR/><BR/>What a stupid comment.<BR/><BR/>How's the "real" war in Iraq going Iain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73878400547458027262007-05-23T16:50:00.000+01:002007-05-23T16:50:00.000+01:00At the time of the resignation of Estelle Morris f...At the time of the resignation of Estelle Morris from her ministerial post (she was my MP), Melissa Kite subjected us to her metropolitan wisdom on a 5Live panel by commenting on Ms Morris's 'West Midlands accent'.<BR/><BR/>I fired off an email to 5Live pointing out that, while Morris represented a West Midlands constituency, her accent is clearly Northern English (Manchester. I believe) and that perhaps Ms Kite might enjoy an occasional trip outside the M25 Social Safet Zone.<BR/><BR/>Of course, my email was not read out.smallheathenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07017637437616073543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58687305802684861322007-05-23T10:38:00.000+01:002007-05-23T10:38:00.000+01:00why does mark Clarke keep rushing to defend Meliss...why does mark Clarke keep rushing to defend Melissa Kite? Very interesting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74035975550547206802007-05-22T18:59:00.000+01:002007-05-22T18:59:00.000+01:00Iain: Have you looked in the mirror recently? I ha...Iain: Have you looked in the mirror recently? I have posted my response and the picture of a Tory troll does bear a passing resemblance to yourself...jailhouselawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795278184797990706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54701057164291762052007-05-22T16:45:00.000+01:002007-05-22T16:45:00.000+01:00It is a well known fact in the lobby that Melissa ...It is a well known fact in the lobby that Melissa Kite does not attend the women's lobby lunches. <BR/><BR/>It appears that your source for this is erroneous. You might want to check your sources a little more carefully in future before you write such inaccuracies.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I would correct this...Mark Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15081304122269935086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2476388368874704892007-05-22T16:26:00.000+01:002007-05-22T16:26:00.000+01:00Dear Auntie Flo - Not only have you had a huge sen...Dear Auntie Flo - Not only have you had a huge sense of humour failure - but you are just wrong wrong wrong in your assumptions about me.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Correct, I'm not at all fond of Edward Leigh and the right wing Tory 'Old Guard'. So what?! Neither is David Cameron. <BR/><BR/>I like David Cameron and I think he is doing a good job. If he continues to impress me then I might vote for him in the future. So what?!<BR/><BR/>I like David Miliband - but he didn't stand against Gordon Brown. I think that is a shame - but - So what?!<BR/><BR/>I can like two people from two different political parties without it being a crime! LoL :)<BR/><BR/>What exactly is your point? I'm baffled.<BR/><BR/>Of course you should be able to express yourself freely - and me too.<BR/><BR/>What's your beef? Don't try to bully me. What's the point?<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>PS> What is your Webcameron user name then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4649443367015450542007-05-22T15:34:00.000+01:002007-05-22T15:34:00.000+01:00Jailhouselawyer, I bow to your superior knowledge ...Jailhouselawyer, I bow to your superior knowledge of flawed characters. You just have to look in the mirror I suppose.<BR/><BR/>Chris Paul, I am indeed saying that. There is no organised Male Only lunching society for journalists. But there is a female only one. That is a fact which not even you can dispute.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36029788587515125512007-05-22T15:28:00.000+01:002007-05-22T15:28:00.000+01:00Is "anti-christian" code?Is "anti-christian" code?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41233065086369824632007-05-22T15:24:00.000+01:002007-05-22T15:24:00.000+01:00Iain are you really saying that no clubby boys onl...Iain are you really saying that no clubby boys only lunches occur between gentlemen of the press and members of parliament? If so I do think you may be sadly mistaken about that.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37807381352818954262007-05-22T14:53:00.000+01:002007-05-22T14:53:00.000+01:00canvas said:Auntie Flow, you are doing my brain in...canvas said:<BR/><BR/>Auntie Flow, you are doing my brain in - big-time. Loll Are you are some kind of creepy Tory troll? Or are you Tizzy? Loll :)<BR/>.....I am under no obligation to declare my [Voting] intentions to you - right here - right now. <BR/><BR/>canvas, I've never been a Tory, I'm not a troll and have as much right to submit my views to Iain's blog as you have. It's up to Iain to decide what's posted or remains on his site. I'm not creepy, either, and would be grateful if you would not apply these typical nasty, smear tactics of yours to me.<BR/><BR/>If you post your nulab, Conservative hating, diatribes here, or suggest you support Cameron while making contradictory claims that you support, and might vote for, Miliband elsewhere, I've every right to submit posts to Iain's blog pointing this out. It's up to Iain whether or not he allows posts. And my quotes are not distortions, I give references that anyone can check. <BR/><BR/>Not surprised that you dislike mention of your contradictory statements about supporting Cameron and Miliband- who wouldn't?<BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91790698351668131062007-05-22T14:47:00.000+01:002007-05-22T14:47:00.000+01:00Surely that's the point of an interactive media - ...Surely that's the point of an interactive media - you will get attacked in real time.<BR/><BR/>I suspect what really cheeses newspapers columnists off is that essentially lots of people do a job as good as them for free.<BR/><BR/>Columnists are just stone-age bloggers who get paid for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54362978808318247412007-05-22T13:57:00.000+01:002007-05-22T13:57:00.000+01:00Of course Watlington is wrong to describe Iain Dal...Of course Watlington is wrong to describe Iain Dale as a genius. But right to describe him as flawed. That is not as in flawed genius, rather it is in flawed character which leads to a flawed thinking and the consequence is a flawed logic.<BR/><BR/>"If they have an agenda there's no reasoning with them", this was Iain Dale's response on 18DS to criticisms of him and his blogging. Iain Dale likes to play to his rules or he takes his football home with him. He was unable to convince a selection committee that he was suitable to become a MP. The pussycat is now limping around with a sore paw. Get over it and move on. Some people are cut out to be movers and shakers, whilst others are destined to be arm chair critics. Get yourself a comfortable armchair it will make you feel better.jailhouselawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795278184797990706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19837490445916642052007-05-22T13:18:00.000+01:002007-05-22T13:18:00.000+01:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiskinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FiskingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48520301395509866362007-05-22T13:16:00.000+01:002007-05-22T13:16:00.000+01:00Auntie Flo, you are doing my brain in - bigtime. L...Auntie Flo, you are doing my brain in - bigtime. LoL Are you are some kind of creepy Tory troll? Or are you Tizzy? LoL :)<BR/><BR/>As for your very 'selective cut and paste' jobs - so what?! At the next general election I will vote for whoever I think is best for the country. I am under no obligation to declare my intentions to you - right here - right now. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I do like David Miliband - and I do like David Cameron. I think Cameron has great potential to be an excellent Prime Minister. So what? I don't like Gordon Brown. And yes -I do have 'wee socialist tendencies'. Once again, so what?<BR/><BR/>I think the Conservative Party are completely unelectable without Cameron as leader. He is the voice of the future - and his own party can't even see it. The right wing old guard are their own worst enemies. Cameron has got to modernise a party that is SO stuck in the past - it's unbelievable. It's a tall order. I hope he does it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28242236227619580422007-05-22T12:40:00.000+01:002007-05-22T12:40:00.000+01:00canvas said on cameron rejects 7-20/5 2007, in top...canvas said on cameron rejects 7-20/5 2007, in topic Ian Dale: <BR/><BR/>"Who is auntie flo?"<BR/> <BR/>canvas quoted Flo' from Ian Dale:<BR/>Well, look who we have here, canvas from webcameron, the 'wee bit of a socialist'. Has to be that canvas, no one else I know of uses that 'LoL' expression. You aren't going whine and demand that Iain restructures his whole blog to suit you as you do of DC on webcameron, are you canvas? It pees me off so much that I rarely look at webcameron now. <BR/><BR/>One other question, are you, as I've long suspected, really Steve Hilton (Auntie Flo')"<BR/> ......<BR/>"How did Auntie Flo get this info if all the blogs have been wiped off WCTO?? Weird. Creepy." (canvas) <BR/><BR/>"Auntie Flo is is doing my brain in. Wonder what Auntie Flo's WCTO user name is?? (canvas)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why don't you ask Auntie Flo, canvas? <BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71268205825791941332007-05-22T12:35:00.000+01:002007-05-22T12:35:00.000+01:00It aint so much what you do as the way you do it.H...It aint so much what you do as the way you do it.Hiding in a classroom oop north while Willie does the biz is no way for an old Etonian to act.<BR/>What about a Bullingdon night out at conference to clear the air.And the restaurant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21706982018394825302007-05-22T12:25:00.000+01:002007-05-22T12:25:00.000+01:00canvas said on webcameron:"It's time for a new gen...canvas said on webcameron:<BR/><BR/>"It's time for a new generation to take over - whether it's David Cameron or David Miliband"<BR/><BR/>"I think it's more like a 'win - win' situation for Miliband. If Gordon does become leader he will make sure Miliband is kept close by (no matter what) - he knows how popular Miliband is - and he knows Miliband is a great politician..."<BR/><BR/>canvas has also said she(he?) might vote for Miliband if he stood against Cameron.<BR/><BR/>It seems that you have a rather flexible, hypocritical view of who exactly is the future then, canvas. <BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24868213160709293052007-05-22T12:10:00.000+01:002007-05-22T12:10:00.000+01:00Auntie, Dearest,The Tory Party voted Cameron in as...Auntie, Dearest,<BR/><BR/>The Tory Party voted Cameron in as Leader. All this back stabbing and bitching by the right wing element is not only unhelpful - but it reflects badly on the Conservative Party as a whole. <BR/><BR/>Cameron will drag the old style Tories into the 21st century whether they like it or not. If they don't like it - that's tough. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19120821162865157212007-05-22T11:50:00.000+01:002007-05-22T11:50:00.000+01:00canvas said... All these right wing moaning minnie...canvas said... <BR/><BR/>All these right wing moaning minnie's should put up or shut up. The future is Cameron whether you like it or not... <BR/><BR/>Correction, canvas, this is still a democracy and it is the people who decide what the future is, not a dictatorship of one comprised of you.<BR/><BR/>Trying to stifle debate from any part of the political spectrum is what is really pointless, utopian - and so nulab. So I'm not a all surprised that this is what canvas who describes her(him?)self as 'a wee bit of a Socialist' falls back on.<BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22385015049544761152007-05-22T11:28:00.000+01:002007-05-22T11:28:00.000+01:00Inverted snobbery is pointless. It doesn't matter...Inverted snobbery is pointless. It doesn't matter where Cameron comes from - it matters where he is going.<BR/><BR/>All these right wing moaning minnie's should put up or shut up. The future is Cameron whether you like it or not...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32038425731257326802007-05-22T11:20:00.000+01:002007-05-22T11:20:00.000+01:00FISKEPlease don't tell me if it has its source in ...FISKE<BR/><BR/>Please don't tell me if it has its source in that wonderful, brave independent, thought-provoking and award - winning journo, robert fisk <BR/><BR/><BR/>It does and I think it goes back to an article he wrote when he was stoned and mugged and claimed that he felt he deserved it as apart of a Western conspiracy to subjugate the peoples of the Middle East. Its in the Whats Left Book by Nick Coen.<BR/><BR/>"Kill Us We Deserve It" was the themeNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33860586748957764062007-05-22T10:56:00.000+01:002007-05-22T10:56:00.000+01:00Auntie Flo' May 22, 2007 9:46 AM Quite so. I bet M...Auntie Flo' <BR/><BR/>May 22, 2007 9:46 AM <BR/><BR/><BR/>Quite so. I bet Mr Cameron won't be found dealing with this on his web-site.<BR/><BR/>I reckon that what has really upset many Conservatives was the lack of debate before this rather Stalinist edit was issued. This after months of "We're waiting for all these Policy reviews to report" whenever a policy question is raised.<BR/><BR/>Cameron you are rapidly loosing your credability in the Tory Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61136666700872936422007-05-22T10:46:00.000+01:002007-05-22T10:46:00.000+01:00Well I thought it was funny Mr Dale... I herebye a...Well I thought it was funny Mr Dale... I herebye apologise for suggesting Melissa (Comment deleted)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12821312542275794002007-05-22T10:25:00.000+01:002007-05-22T10:25:00.000+01:00If attacked, this represents a victory: you have b...If attacked, this represents a victory: you have been noticed and your attacker feels threatened by it.<BR/><BR/>If attacked, this represents good intelligence: one knows more precisely where to plant the next laser-guided bovver boot<BR/><BR/>If attacked, bide your time, then get the stiletto out and slip it gently between their ribs and you will, I think, find that they don't like it up 'em.<BR/><BR/>If attacked, bide your time and wait until, like the Hun, come at them from the sun at a time and place of your choosing.<BR/><BR/>With thanks to Sun-Tzu and Clausewitz, there is nothing to fear from this leftish rabble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35675396069631076472007-05-22T10:05:00.000+01:002007-05-22T10:05:00.000+01:00One has to decide whether such attacks actually me...One has to decide whether such attacks actually merit any response. <BR/><BR/>That, of course, is a measure of one's opinion of the quality of a) the comment, and/or b) the commenter.<BR/><BR/>In the case of Kite, why bother?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.com