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in with complaints... taCarl Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930750600999601721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41694346436944015792009-02-19T12:49:00.000+00:002009-02-19T12:49:00.000+00:00"I could never doorstep someone or make that 6pm p..."I could never doorstep someone or make that 6pm phone call to tell someone they are being done over in my paper. I could make a good reporter, but never an investigative journalist. I know my limits - I'll stick to opinion and commentary."<BR/><BR/>Tch. How little you think of journalists Iain. And how much you think of columnists/opiners and commenttors...<BR/><BR/>Probably a safe bet to keep repeating you're not a journalist. <BR/>By the Weasel's reckoning about getting information out of people, I would agree - Terry Wogan was a good interviewer, as was Frost... but then so's Frank Skinner. <BR/><BR/>None were journalists.<BR/><BR/>Good journalism is not about forming respectful relationships... it's about knowing when to stop doing deference. <BR/><BR/>As for "here endeth the lesson", unless you happen to be an NCTJ examiner Weasel, I'll take my classes elsewhere. As a regional report I can assure you that most of my colleagues consider working in Fleet Street as the furthest thing from a glowing reference. These days, they give local reporters - where the nuts and bolts work is very often originated and done - a very bad name.Carl Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930750600999601721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51411360746995331412009-02-19T11:50:00.000+00:002009-02-19T11:50:00.000+00:00This is a sympathetic interview and I find it a ...This is a sympathetic interview and I find it a refreshing change .I want to hear Cameron make his case not the interviewer show us how clever he thinks he is .<BR/><BR/>( Cannot imagne how you got away with being a financial a financial journalist with Lloyds List ....charm ? )Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87701570042476413382009-02-19T02:22:00.000+00:002009-02-19T02:22:00.000+00:00Crikey I am looking forward to the Question Time d...Crikey I am looking forward to the Question Time debates when Cameron goes on - I really wonder if Brown will be PM by the time of the next election as he will lose and it might even be painful TV to watch Brown fielding Questions from a hostile audience for all the hardship he and Labour have caused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88464592384641176002009-02-18T18:31:00.000+00:002009-02-18T18:31:00.000+00:00Leonardo said... ... It's about manners and I thin...<I> Leonardo said... <BR/>... It's about manners and I think what we've got to do is frame this debate in a sense of what is good manners and politeness and what is common sense."<BR/><BR/>So is he saying we will all have to have good manners by law? </I><BR/><BR/>No he is not. He's saying that some manners wouldn't be out of place in public life. Of course after twelve years of Labour there's millions who've forgotten the meaning of the word, if they ever even knew it.Yak40https://www.blogger.com/profile/10391635243252561168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78364022175624858882009-02-18T17:53:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:53:00.000+00:00Our David, who art a Tory, Cameron be thy name - w...Our David, who art a Tory, <BR/>Cameron be thy name - when<BR/>Thy Government come<BR/>Thy will be done<BR/>In media, as it is on television<BR/>Give us today our daily sound bite<BR/>And forgive us our scepticism<BR/>As we forgive those who ENDLESSLY ask Brown if he will apologise for the 'boom and bust' thing<BR/>Lead us not into Thatcherism<BR/>But deliver us from Capitalism<BR/>For thine is the charisma, the opportunism, and the credit crunch<BR/>For ever and ever<BR/>I hope notstrapworldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228784526399929300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77351616704523074442009-02-18T17:37:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:37:00.000+00:00A Romanian journalist once said to me that you don...A Romanian journalist once said to me that you dont have to be an agressive buffoon to be a journalist. 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It's more than providing just mood music, but it stops short of providing a detailed policy on every conceivable thing.<BR/><BR/>The main thing is that they know what they are going to do on day 1 and have the courage to do it.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30687384766204117432009-02-18T17:15:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:15:00.000+00:00Hi Iain.I'll lay my cards down - I'm not a Tory vo...Hi Iain.<BR/><BR/>I'll lay my cards down - I'm not a Tory voter. I'm not Labour or Lib Dem one instinctively either - but I most certainly lean to the left.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a "troll" - I just don't happen to agree with Tory politics.<BR/><BR/>However - I enjoy your blog as a place of rational thinking and debate. <BR/><BR/>What's your take on the view from a lot of us that:<BR/>- Don't hate the government<BR/>- Don't naturally vote Tory<BR/><BR/>on Dave's ability to bring his party with him? My take on him is the clear lack of substance is a natural consequence of his fear of his party shooting themselves in the foot. In other words - don't say anything to rock the boat...Cusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365652197257256364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21583724222215904662009-02-18T17:00:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:00:00.000+00:00excellentexcellentDaily Referendumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899003349232334603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5334857700653623382009-02-18T16:03:00.000+00:002009-02-18T16:03:00.000+00:00Happy just to set the record straight, Iain. As ha...Happy just to set the record straight, Iain. As happened with stat-porn, I lost my appetite for declaring victories over marginal items after watching other bloggers wayyyyy overdoing it.<BR/><BR/>So I guess Draper has done some good after all...Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55010862177782789362009-02-18T16:02:00.000+00:002009-02-18T16:02:00.000+00:00What worries me Iain, is that I think it is Camero...What worries me Iain, is that I think it is Cameron, not Clegg, who is in the wrong party.Salmondnethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04135160187810480222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76784499061093091962009-02-18T15:50:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:50:00.000+00:00Tim, Having just checked, that does indeed appear ...Tim, Having just checked, that does indeed appear in the biog which is sent out by me on request. It was not, however, written by me. <BR/><BR/>If I was being pedantic, I could point out that I was a financial journalist with Lloyds List in 1990, but I'll leave the pedantry to others!<BR/><BR/>I have taken that word out now, though, so victory is yours.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81103105103150135322009-02-18T15:40:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:40:00.000+00:00Just saw your comment, Iain. Thank you."I'll stick...Just saw your comment, Iain. Thank you.<BR/><BR/><I>"I'll stick to opinion and commentary."</I><BR/><BR/>Because that's where your strengths lie, and - I hope you will agree - that's the way you are wired. Genuine objectivity is going to be a challenge for an ardent Tory/LibDem/whatever, no matter how much you try.<BR/><BR/><I>"I do not describe myself as a journalist, because I am not one. "</I><BR/><BR/>Gotta pull you up there, Iain, and ask if this text from <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2007/jun/03/iaindale" REL="nofollow">your Guardian profile</A> comes from your self-penned bio or if it is the result of some awful mistake:<BR/><BR/>"<I>Iain is a widely respected journalist"</I>Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4841056045447224582009-02-18T15:31:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:31:00.000+00:00What you are describing is the use of interviewing...What you are describing is the use of interviewing skills to unearth hidden information. It is obvious where a journalist might find this skill useful.<BR/><BR/>But the skills can also be used to elicit a verdict from the audience based on impression, not information. The same skills can be used to avoid certain information coming to light (or being seen in a positive light) during that conversation. Being a skilled interviewer does not make you a journalist. If it did, then every presenter on the shopping channel would be a journalist.<BR/><BR/>"Tell me, Frank, why is the Lady Shaver so effective?"<BR/>"Well, let me tell you, Fred..."<BR/><BR/>FFS, it would make Robert Kilroy-Silk a journalist.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34147112648807643162009-02-18T15:24:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:24:00.000+00:00"I could never doorstep someone or make that 6pm p..."I could never doorstep someone or make that 6pm phone call to tell someone they are being done over in my paper"<BR/><BR/>Good journalism is about forming respectful relationships. That's how you get another interview, and that is how you get information. If you "doorstep" people you won't get very far.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20859172402582963902009-02-18T15:21:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:21:00.000+00:00I will add one more thing from my own experience.Y...I will add one more thing from my own experience.<BR/><BR/>You can do hard interviews, like Paxman, and you can do soft interviews, like Parkinson. Both are journalists.<BR/><BR/>Soft interviews work best on two kinds of people; the honest, and the utterly deluded. The Theroux guy makes a living out of the latter. GMTV can destroy careers just by sitting on the sofa and watching the car crash. Shifty people are best left to the Paxmans of this world. The only way to get shifty people is to repeatedly ask the same question until they start sweating or storm off.<BR/><BR/>here endeth the first lesson.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30890900267382042352009-02-18T15:20:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:20:00.000+00:00FWIW, I tend to agree with Tim that being a good j...FWIW, I tend to agree with Tim that being a good journalist and being a good interviewer are not necessarily the same thing. <BR/><BR/>I think I am good at a certain type of interview, less good at another. So I stick to what I think I am good at. Which I guess is what most people in all walks of life try to do.<BR/><BR/>All interviewers steer interviews in certain directions. A conversational interview like this is less prone to that, though. <BR/><BR/>I like to see where a conversation takes me. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. It often takes 15 or 20 minutes for an interviewee to warm up, and therefore open up. I think that was certainly the case here, where DC's answers in the first part are certainly a little more closed than later on.<BR/><BR/>Some of what I do is, I suppose, a little journalistic, but I do not describe myself as a journalist, because I am not one. <BR/><BR/>I could never doorstep someone or make that 6pm phone call to tell someone they are being done over in my paper. I could make a good reporter, but never an investigative journalist. I know my limits - I'll stick to opinion and commentary.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65129123419681190772009-02-18T15:17:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:17:00.000+00:00Perhaps if you had praised Iain's objectivity and ...Perhaps if you had praised Iain's objectivity and said that *this* made him a natural journalist, you would have a point.<BR/><BR/>(PS - Tangential, so feel free to drop by my place and answer this question instead of having a go here, but I can't help but wondering what it is that you think i 'wannabe'...)Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74849942766182010602009-02-18T15:12:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:12:00.000+00:00WW: Again you seek to undermine me instead of deal...WW: Again you seek to undermine me instead of dealing with the substance of my comments... which you don't appear to have read in full.<BR/><BR/><I>"I hope you are not trying to make out this was a specious puff from start to finish"</I><BR/><BR/>I took care not to even suggest that, WW. I'll repeat myself in a jiffy, just to show you the bit you missed.<BR/><BR/>Having interviewing skills does not make you a journalist. Being a skilled photographer does not make you a journalist.<BR/><BR/>Open your mind and try to understand what I am saying here:<BR/><BR/>A skilled photographer could use his skills to convey a lie. That's not journalism, not matter how skilled the photographer may be or how 'real' the subject may be.<BR/><BR/><B>Not that it has happened here</B>, but Iain is a skilled interviewer, capable of driving a conversation the way he wants it to go. This is not something that a journalist should do.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3165014595777104302009-02-18T15:11:00.000+00:002009-02-18T15:11:00.000+00:00It was good interview, but it really did come over...It was good interview, but it really did come over as a conversational audio interview rather than a written one.<BR/><BR/>Is there any way that these could be downloaded as a podcast?David Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08240242801763405583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60081628704407886682009-02-18T14:58:00.000+00:002009-02-18T14:58:00.000+00:00Tim, you don't understand.What you see published i...Tim, you don't understand.<BR/><BR/>What you see published is a distillation of what actually happened.<BR/><BR/>A while back, I emailed Iain about a TP interview, about what looked like the obvious omission of a pertinent question and he emailed me back to tell me that, not only had he asked it, he asked it at the point where I said he should have, only the interviewee did not reply in any meaningful way. <BR/><BR/>Please don't get out of your depth.<BR/><BR/>The art of the interview is to get information. How you do this depends upon who the participants are. You also have to have some idea about what you wish to achieve, in this case, you are not expecting Cameron to reveal he is in love with David Davis, are you?<BR/><BR/>What you are expecting, in this kind of interview, is an insight into the personality of the man who will be the next Prime Minister.<BR/><BR/>I say again, Iain did a good job. I hope you are not trying to make out this was a specious puff from start to finish, because if you are, then say so, and we can have it out round the bike shed.<BR/><BR/>I still have no idea who you are, unless you are that Tim Ireland, who is a tiresome wannabee. Oh, I have just checked, you are that Time Ireland who is a tiresome wannabee. Sorry, I should have known.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44014954341836263812009-02-18T14:54:00.000+00:002009-02-18T14:54:00.000+00:00Just been listening to David Cameron being intervi...Just been listening to David Cameron being interviewed on Simon Mayo's BBC FIVE LIVE show. Bit worried when he said his passion was reforming education. Is that not NEW LABOUR Blair rhetoric? Education, education, education. He ought to be careful he doesn't fall into trap of being classed the heir to Blair....<BR/><BR/>www.plenty2say.comPlentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06205851616053056137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21169234514873845522009-02-18T14:46:00.000+00:002009-02-18T14:46:00.000+00:00WW, you know who I am, as we have intersected on a...WW, you know who I am, as we have intersected on a number of threads here. This makes your 'Tim who?' tactic positively cringeworthy. Next time, do what the pros do, and adopt a new identity before trying to undermine an opponent by pretending not to know who they are.<BR/><BR/>A journalist gathers information and shares the results; ideally in an objective fashion. An interviewer guides a conversation (some honestly/earnestly, some otherwise), thereby choosing what information to share with people who are observing the conversation. A skilled interviewer can have an audience make up their mind on impression alone; not a single fact is needed.<BR/><BR/>Being a skilled interviewer does not make you a good journalist.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.com