tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post3897794649867570206..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Tories Should Not Be Defensive About Spending RestraintIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58781887062288587712009-06-13T20:08:45.801+01:002009-06-13T20:08:45.801+01:00Dear Friend!
I have a new blog for modern and cont...Dear Friend!<br />I have a new blog for modern and contemporary world history - “Nikolaykotev's Blog” with URL: http://nikolaykotev.wordpress.com/ .If you want, you can see it on this adress!<br />Best wishes<br />Nikolay Kotev<br />NEWS: approximately 1300 photos from the Second World WarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80312932329989759992009-06-12T23:44:58.061+01:002009-06-12T23:44:58.061+01:00Last year Gordon Brown announced an 'aid' ...Last year Gordon Brown announced an 'aid' package to India of 825 Million.<br /><br />Correct me if I am wrong, isn't India a nuclear power, doesn't an Indian firm own Jaguar and Landrover, are we exporting lots of jobs to Indian call centres.<br /><br />Am I missing something?Dave Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17477306852582939602009-06-12T23:37:04.627+01:002009-06-12T23:37:04.627+01:00The NHS still remains the great sacred cow, all pa...The NHS still remains the great sacred cow, all parties fearful to break ranks and speak of dismantling an organisation that is a byword for waste and inefficiency. When NuLab came to power it cost 40Bn to run, currently heading for 120Bn which is 18% of all government expenditure.<br /><br />This monolith is the third biggest employer in the world behind the Indian Railways and the Chinese Army, also there is the small matter of the failed 20Bn computer system.<br /><br />Come on DC, think the unthinkable say the unsayable, we are all grown up boys and girls, we can take it.Dave Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37282860775548544012009-06-12T12:58:55.080+01:002009-06-12T12:58:55.080+01:00"It really is quite simple: When your income ..."It really is quite simple: When your income has been reduced your mortgage and other financial commitments still have to be paid. What do you do? You reduce your spending on non-essential purchases in order to balance your monthly outgoings."<br /><br />The problem is that for the country as a whole income and spending are the same thing. As the private sector is already reducing spending, if the public sector does too then the total income goes down, so pushing the end of recession further away. <br /><br />Once the recession is over, yes, bring the budget back into balance. But trying to balance a budget <i>during</i> a recession is economically illiterate, and would give us a repeat of the 1930s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17840337125236741992009-06-12T12:32:16.182+01:002009-06-12T12:32:16.182+01:00Why don't Tories simply say that we haven'...Why don't Tories simply say that we haven't yet paid for the past decade of spending.....and Brown has huge tax increases prepared ....after all VAT will rise before the election.<br /><br />Even in Germany the DIW Institute is calling for 25% VAT and it was only 16% a year agoTomTomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40251380203106998432009-06-12T11:56:46.938+01:002009-06-12T11:56:46.938+01:00Everyone in the country knows we are up to our eye...Everyone in the country knows we are up to our eyes in debt that will take a generation to pay off. Camerson should be using that to show that we simply cannot afford to keep increasing spending, especially when so much of that spending is on inefficient government bureaucracy and increasing the client state. Labour have managed to persuade people that continued spending increases are acceptable - this is a situation that must be stopped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45873746242013184362009-06-12T11:17:55.761+01:002009-06-12T11:17:55.761+01:00Flemingcrag said...
"Labour have friends in ...Flemingcrag said... <br />"Labour have friends in very strange places as they continue with their lie to the British people that an ever increasing deficit in the Nation's budget will not mean spending cuts across the Public services.<br /><br />It is said that Paul Dacre spends a lot of time in the company of Gordon Brown and his Editorial comments generally always find a way to strike a supportive note to New Labour and Gordon in particular.<br /><br />My thoughts are because no self- respecting Reporter would want to be associated with the Editor's desire to push Labour propaganda".<br /><br />He is at it again today, in a long article rubbishing Blears and bigging up the Brownster.Dimotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41453200430554171532009-06-12T10:02:37.358+01:002009-06-12T10:02:37.358+01:00Peter hain got a pretty rough ride from the audien...Peter hain got a pretty rough ride from the audience during Question Time when he tried to push the official line that Labour wouldn't have to make cuts.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41275677804978892242009-06-12T09:30:50.651+01:002009-06-12T09:30:50.651+01:00Why oh why doesn't Cameron simply tell the tru...Why oh why doesn't Cameron simply tell the truth which is that in order to balance the UK's books Brown is cynically waiting until after the election to announce either (a) cuts in public spending, or (b) increases in taxes.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12007476683582095027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65615165574515766232009-06-12T09:30:41.331+01:002009-06-12T09:30:41.331+01:00The Tories should probably concentrate on the size...The Tories should probably concentrate on the size of the interest payments on the debt, which would be understood by the public. <br /><br />The Tory "communications" effort is still light years behind Labour. No Labour Health minister would be allowed to waffle about areas they barely understand, they would just parrot an "authorised formula". Last night Spellman was on QT, up against another solidly Labour packed panel. She is an inadequate, irritating and lightweight spokeswoman at the best of times. I thought Ken Clarke was brought back exactly for his credibility in this type of debate, but Conservative central office just don't seem to get it. They have also singularly failed to influence or open a direct line to ANY newspaper, let alone the broadcast media.<br />Cameron should stop playing buddies with his communication team and start demanding much more performance on pain of dismissal.Dimotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79692116593166911542009-06-12T07:47:50.287+01:002009-06-12T07:47:50.287+01:00But Labour are saying the same about spending rest...But Labour are saying the same about spending restraint and cuts. <br /><br />The beeb summed it up. The next election will be about Tory cuts versus Labour cuts.<br /><br />Brown is being dishonest with the people about this.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933925145129085413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75654227461378007832009-06-12T01:38:26.887+01:002009-06-12T01:38:26.887+01:00I truly despair. The Brown attack on "Tory sp...I truly despair. The Brown attack on "Tory spending cuts" is based on the Brown assumption that anything spent by Government is good - "scatter seeds on the ground and something will grow". Those of us who have run businesses know that money can be invested for gain, wasted, or (worse) spent on something that reduces value. I know that a large chunk of Govt spending is misspent, but there are no figures to prove it because Govt statistics are useless. A 10% cut in spending is desirable, a larger cut should be the target. The NHS should not be a sacred cow. It is an appalling waste of money. Until people wake up to this fact, it will continue to swallow up a disproportionate amount of the nation's wealth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302719012218692188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81037804351515135792009-06-11T22:19:26.009+01:002009-06-11T22:19:26.009+01:00Flemincrag -
I agree with the comments made abou...Flemincrag - <br /><br />I agree with the comments made about the Daily Mail editorials. Over a considerable period of time, they have avoided direct criticism of Gordon Brown, and have always painted him as some kind of an honourable victim of circumstance.<br /><br />The editorial has become a written apologist for Brown, but not necessarily the Labour party.<br /><br />Brown is at the very dark heart of the rot - PMQs proved that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60037023634967679342009-06-11T20:36:47.473+01:002009-06-11T20:36:47.473+01:00I've spoken to a lot of people over the last 2...I've spoken to a lot of people over the last 2 days about this and the Tories do not need to be apologetic about saying they intend to "balance the books". The public are crying out for politicians who will be responsible with our money and responsible about not lumbering our kids with an impossible mountain of debt. <br /><br />This is not about "cuts" as part of some political dogma to roll back the frontiers of the State. This is simply about managing within a budget to get us out of debt - this is about spending only what you can afford to. I know we've had a decade of easy credit and living within your means hasn't been "fashionable", but I think we've all been brought crashing down to reality...all of us that is apart from Crash Gordon.<br /><br />Dave shouldn't castigate his team for telling the truth about the mess we are in and the consequences. The public respect honesty and realism. Gordon Brown is clearly delusional and believes that if he keeps on saying that black is white, eventually the public will believe him. He is wrong - we've seen through him.<br /><br />The Tories should not apologise or go defensive about being prudent - they should shout it from the rooftops and make it a key plank of their manifesto going forward - it is clearly a huge dividing line between Labour and Conservatives...but if they wobble on this they will lose votes as we need to believe that they know what they are going to do with the economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57971318913526610142009-06-11T19:46:08.462+01:002009-06-11T19:46:08.462+01:00A recent poll on my blog showed the majority of pe...A recent poll on my blog showed the majority of people want a public sector of under 20% of GNP. This ties in well with a Times poll saying only 7% wanted more spending (there are about 6% who simply want the USSR & can never be placated). Currently it is just over 50%. That means if the Conservatives were to frame this in an aspiration to get it down to say 35% Labour couldn't offer anything. Just every time they say "we can't cut nurses" ask them to name a % of GNP they want to spend.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57919482014857648712009-06-11T19:28:36.899+01:002009-06-11T19:28:36.899+01:00The problem with Tory cuts is that Cameron is too ...The problem with Tory cuts is that Cameron is too weak-kneed to cut deep enough. We spend more on providing dole to chavs, housing benefit to Somalis and pensions to public-sector employees with sociology degrees than we do on education, defence and health combined.<br /><br />To the best and brightest young people, we say "Up yours. Pay for your own education - and if you can't afford it, tough titty". To the scum of the earth, the unemployables, the "asylum seeking" benefit tourists, we say "Please take all our money! And our houses! And all our available resources!".<br /><br />My gay friend recently asked why I hadn't had children. It seemed to him a commonplace that us heteros should breed. I had to explain that my wife and I can't afford children - we're too busy paying for everyone else's!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80244551087085887402009-06-11T19:16:31.944+01:002009-06-11T19:16:31.944+01:00Using the word restraint would seem to be defensiv...Using the word restraint would seem to be defensive IianThe Town Crierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09971725329811922213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86660111301408318892009-06-11T19:12:33.119+01:002009-06-11T19:12:33.119+01:00Labour have friends in very strange places as they...Labour have friends in very strange places as they continue with their lie to the British people that an ever increasing deficit in the Nation's budget will not mean spending cuts across the Public services.<br /><br />It is said that Paul Dacre spends a lot of time in the company of Gordon Brown and his Editorial comments generally always find a way to strike a supportive note to New Labour and Gordon in particular.<br /><br />This is an amended headline from the Mail today; "Labour hints at tax rise if it wins election as Tories let slip plans to slash spending by 10%". The original headline made no mention of Labour thoughts about raising taxes, just Tory cuts. This story has been updated over the course of the day but, carries no signature just attributed to a Mail Reporter. My thoughts are because no self- respecting Reporter would want to be associated with the Editor's desire to push Labour propaganda.<br /><br />The Mail is not the only newspaper which puts out Government propaganda and in almost all cases the anonymous Reporter is the outlet. <br />IF ITS A STORY WORTH PUTTING INTO PRINT THEN THE AUTHOR SHOULD BE CLEAR, TO GIVE A RIGHT OF REPLY.Flemingcragnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26344845925846885902009-06-11T18:35:01.765+01:002009-06-11T18:35:01.765+01:00What the Conservatives have to do is take the spen...What the Conservatives have to do is take the spending restraint agenda to Labour and expose their lies about having no cuts or spending restraint.<br /><br />The issue about who is going to cut what and the Conservative party must aggressively challenge Labour to say where they will make cuts and attack them for lying when they say they aren't.<br /><br />Channel 4 has Labour bang to right on lying about cuts.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/factcheck+who+is+cutting+spending/3204762" rel="nofollow">C 4 Fact Check</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80467160465808767162009-06-11T18:30:54.841+01:002009-06-11T18:30:54.841+01:00I have advised Cameron to make a statement to nail...I have advised Cameron to make a statement to nail Gordon’s election propaganda attack and cut it to the quick.<br /><br />The statement should say.<br /><br />We in the conservative party will match the 7% cuts in public spending from 2011 of the Labour government. If elected sooner, we will forensically examine the Treasury books and publicly show the electorate black holes that may require even more surgery.<br /><br />We will also hold to account any Treasury official, who has fallen down on the job. And expose the failings of the government ministers responsible<br /><br />The PurplelineThe Purplelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13824474829595685623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38156030157753336942009-06-11T17:37:50.808+01:002009-06-11T17:37:50.808+01:00I still cannot understand why the Tories still hav...I still cannot understand why the Tories still have their panties in a bunch over this.<br /><br />Unless state spending is cut DRASTICALLY and the tax burden reduced, we will be sat with a high "friction", bloated State and massive debts that still cannot be repaid. The State is the economy's "dimmer switch" - heat and no light.<br /><br />I bet we need to cut spending by 10% just to service the new debts incurred in a falling revenue environment, I should not wonder. To increase debt just to "pay the bills" is madness.<br /><br />As others have said, we have to balance the books and the way to do that is to cut outgoings and make efficiencies where we do spend. <br /><br />Q: The best people to know how to spend tax revenues are? <br />A: The taxpayers who earned it.<br /><br />Solution- cut out the middleman (the state). Reduce then eliminate taxation on employment and keep it on consumption.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4509493527951181912009-06-11T17:21:49.151+01:002009-06-11T17:21:49.151+01:00It really is quite simple: When your income has be...It really is quite simple: When your income has been reduced your mortgage and other financial commitments still have to be paid. What do you do? You reduce your spending on non-essential purchases in order to balance your monthly outgoings. But what do I know, I'm just a businessman who runs a small company and one who is taxed to point where my pips are squeaking.Simon The Bluesmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7134520829359279272009-06-11T17:13:54.413+01:002009-06-11T17:13:54.413+01:00While it would make it more difficult to exploit w...While it would make it more difficult to exploit what I regard as a foolish Labour mistake I have to agree with Iain.<br /><br />The mistake is for Labour to attack a 10% cut which effectively leaves Labour promising that they will not cut spending at all - ever. This is clearly impossible when we are already borrowing 12.5% of GNP. Labour are very obviously either lying or insane.<br /><br />The Tory problem is that 10% isn't much more sensible & would certainly mean tax rises & a choking off of growth. The way out is to make no bones about growth being the overriding objective & that this will require much less spending on quangos, nanny statism, windmillery & the rest. They should make the non-productive parts of government the sacrificial lamb & winn by forming what Reagan called "a conspiracy by the bosses & the workers against the rest". They can win with every single government employee voting against them as long as they get a swing among all those who don't like government meddling.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39996601843178592232009-06-11T17:11:10.817+01:002009-06-11T17:11:10.817+01:00Siberian Tory wote:
"Have to agree - why is ...Siberian Tory wote:<br /><br />"Have to agree - why is international aid ringfenced?"<br /><br />Honest answer? It's a small amount of money going to a cause the left and the Guardian would quickly attack on.<br /><br />Tories don't care etc."<br /><br /><br />June 11, 2009 3:36 PM<br /><br />They can attack all they want,I really don't see the public giving a hoot frankly. It is plainly indefensible that Overseas Development, of all things, should be immune to cuts in spending given the absolutely dire state of the economy. Our first duty is to our own people and no one else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2147680664495918252009-06-11T16:06:47.343+01:002009-06-11T16:06:47.343+01:00The Tory figures are just Government figures. Brow...The Tory figures are just Government figures. Brown is a lying twat. He lied at the press conference last week when asked about his proposed buts AND he lied in the Commons yesterday.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574081059364644191noreply@blogger.com