tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post3280391546405318299..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Pink News Publishes 'Top Gayers in Politics' ListIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60326778718520121342007-12-30T21:22:00.000+00:002007-12-30T21:22:00.000+00:00I find it astonishing that Paul Jenkins is so high...I find it astonishing that Paul Jenkins is so high on the list. He's got one of the most interesting and important legal jobs in the country, but politically influential? Come off it. To put him higher than Alan Duncan and Angela Mason, to mention just two, is a bit silly.Carl Gardner, Head of Legalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11623620299558039098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37929310226296741862007-12-28T21:04:00.000+00:002007-12-28T21:04:00.000+00:00For the benefit of 'old and angry' (and dim), homo...For the benefit of 'old and angry' (and dim), homosexuality is not a perversion. It is a natural state in that it is natural to those who are homosexual and it is a condition known in nature. <BR/><BR/>Gays don't shout about their sexuality from the rooftops - it only appears that way to people who are insecure and prone to get things out of proportion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68558385949767273792007-12-28T21:00:00.000+00:002007-12-28T21:00:00.000+00:00There are two types of list published nowadays. T...There are two types of list published nowadays. The first comprises lists, often in the form of league tables, that are based on data and derive from a consistently applied formula. So that their utility can be assessed, they publish the basis on which they are compiled, in the same way that opinion polls publish details of the dates conducted, sample size and methodology employed. <BR/><BR/>The second comprises lists that derive from no obvious formula but rather are the product of the subjective assessment of a particular individual or group. These have no value other than as entertainment and/or reflecting the particular bias or assessments of the compiler. They are essentially lazy ways of filling space.<BR/><BR/>This list, rather like those produced by Iain, falls very much in the latter category. There is nothing in the article about the methodology employed and hence no basis on which was can assess why one individual is listed at, say, number 10 and someone else is listed at number 15. It is simply a piece of fun, filling space in place of anything serious, and a way of avoiding doing anything too intellectually demanding.<BR/><BR/>Could we not have a moratorium on such lists? Alternatively, could we have a list of the most useless lists that have appeared in print?<BR/>It should, of course, be based on a clear and transparent formula.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75170268554385179822007-12-28T10:21:00.000+00:002007-12-28T10:21:00.000+00:00Ordinary housewife posted,"As long as its not chil...Ordinary housewife posted,"As long as its not children or animals -what the hell difference does it make what one does sexually in one's private life?"<BR/>the operative word here is "Private".<BR/>Why do queers feel the need to shout their perversion from the rooftops?<BR/>I would prefer they all retired back to their closets!old and angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10460349012174678718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19353978798937551542007-12-27T20:09:00.000+00:002007-12-27T20:09:00.000+00:00There's no such person as "Lord Chris Smith". Pres...There's no such person as "Lord Chris Smith". Presumably they mean Lord Smith of Finsbury.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7391163629706460382007-12-27T15:51:00.000+00:002007-12-27T15:51:00.000+00:00fifi-monique needs to re-read the list. There was ...fifi-monique needs to re-read the list. There was a "trans" mentioned, Jenny Bailey, as Mayor for Cambridge.<BR/><BR/>(I'm not sure it's particularly helpful to lump so many different groups together. As a gay man I've nothing in common with a bloke who wants mutilating cosmetic surgery to look womanly, for example.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21180373497413365642007-12-27T14:58:00.000+00:002007-12-27T14:58:00.000+00:00I'd be amused that the LibDems' DBERR spokesman is...I'd be amused that the LibDems' DBERR spokesman is higher than the Tories' except Stephen Williams is our Innovations, Universities etc Shadow, not Business.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601412568605883396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43831469880222026122007-12-27T13:23:00.000+00:002007-12-27T13:23:00.000+00:00sir simon, a little more influential i hope....sir simon, a little more influential i hope....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55983682831848791652007-12-27T12:09:00.000+00:002007-12-27T12:09:00.000+00:00What about our Prime.......Oh damn, I just re-read...What about our Prime.......<BR/><BR/>Oh damn, I just re-read the post - I missed the "openly" bit.<BR/><BR/>Sorry about that. Must keep that appointment with the optician in the New Year!Vienna Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03957194230173008975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32863627956645850722007-12-27T11:39:00.000+00:002007-12-27T11:39:00.000+00:00Looks like I'm the only politician in the village!...Looks like I'm the only politician in the village!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66417272346010404182007-12-27T11:37:00.000+00:002007-12-27T11:37:00.000+00:00What in the name of God is LD Iain Smith doing on ...What in the name of God is LD Iain Smith doing on that list!?!?! What has he done in politics (except be partially responsible for the current LD tactics 'car-crash' in the Scots Parly)...I can't really think of anything of note except either:1) when a newspaper mistakenly printed he and fellow MSP Patrick Harvie (Green) were 'having it off'; 2) It could be the rumour -going around for ages up here -that an MSP and a colleague were caught on security camera doing something they shouldn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86817261802525567532007-12-27T11:30:00.000+00:002007-12-27T11:30:00.000+00:00Following newmania and ordinary housewife, the Gay...Following newmania and ordinary housewife, the Gay community/mafia should be gracious in victory and shut up, else the backlash will be that much more vicious. There are many groups that are much more severely disadvantaged and less well represented.<BR/><BR/>The Pink Times list claimed to be GBLT. Iain rightly omits the T since there were no mentions. Do not underestimate me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54800329675115298682007-12-27T10:17:00.000+00:002007-12-27T10:17:00.000+00:00Why are Portillo and Chris Smith coupled together?...Why are Portillo and Chris Smith coupled together? Is there something we should know?<BR/><BR/>More seriously how refreshing that public figures these days do feel that they can be open about their sexual orientation.Paddy Briggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17847108655078927970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3019011185567747742007-12-27T10:14:00.000+00:002007-12-27T10:14:00.000+00:00I couldn't find old snot face?I couldn't find old snot face?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2232703007453791312007-12-27T09:50:00.000+00:002007-12-27T09:50:00.000+00:00As long as its not children or animals -what the h...As long as its not children or animals -what the hell difference does it make what one does sexually in one's private life?<BR/><BR/>I do not expect anyone to ask my sexual preferences and I do not wish to know anyone else's. Doesn't make any difference to their political expertise or any other!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25215989877512792642007-12-27T09:38:00.000+00:002007-12-27T09:38:00.000+00:00Having recently been the object of primitive bil...Having recently been the object of primitive bile courtesy of , septuagenarian thug, and Queen mum look –alike - Bob (the animal ) Piper , for my supposedly un PC attitudes, I hardly dare comment but ...... <BR/><BR/>What political views does the pink mafia share , if any ? In this country, the Gay constituency is will soon cease entirely to be a “Victim” group and will be dropped of the left`s, ‘pity list’, just as the white working classes were. I see that there is also disenchantment amongst black people, penned into a “Community “ when they would prefer to enter the main stream of cultural life in order to work and integrate as most do.<BR/>Recess Monkey recently claimed that the Labour Party was actually defined by the fight for rights for these groups and I wonder when they see they are neither wanted or useful, what they are claim to be for . Mathew Parris brilliantly shone his torch into the void of coherent belief on the left consisting of a nebulous assertion that they are “Nice”.<BR/>What an end for a movement that was once a moral force and an intellectual Catherine wheel. “ We are ...nice “...sad really .<BR/><BR/>The dust heap of history awaits them and the new Liberal small state concenusus is destined to dispense with this fag end and cast our ship off into the new Millenium . <BR/><BR/>What a hopeful and bright new year it will beNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54202317849954433242007-12-27T08:59:00.000+00:002007-12-27T08:59:00.000+00:00What on earth is Barker doing at No. 13? He's a us...What on earth is Barker doing at No. 13? He's a useless MP. Even before he decided he was gay he was good for nothing except photo opportunities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50131336302923717332007-12-27T08:08:00.000+00:002007-12-27T08:08:00.000+00:00I think they need to look up the definition of "in...I think they need to look up the definition of "influence" and rejig the list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35415588339246037232007-12-27T08:03:00.000+00:002007-12-27T08:03:00.000+00:00Portillo will be pleased...Portillo will be pleased...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73306165602623222192007-12-27T08:02:00.000+00:002007-12-27T08:02:00.000+00:00Judging by that list it can't be long before we ge...Judging by that list it can't be long before we get All Straight Shortlists to redress the balance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33919272676356658742007-12-27T07:55:00.000+00:002007-12-27T07:55:00.000+00:00Going on the size of that list, I think it would b...Going on the size of that list, I think it would be difficult to name 50 "straight people" in politics!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87131416188028061302007-12-27T07:26:00.000+00:002007-12-27T07:26:00.000+00:00Can't believe that Matthew Parris, or indeed Micha...Can't believe that Matthew Parris, or indeed Michael Cashman, is somehow more influential that Alan Duncan. <BR/><BR/>And really, how much influence does a 26 year old spad in the Northern Ireland office wield?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74029003097963702372007-12-27T06:30:00.000+00:002007-12-27T06:30:00.000+00:00Why are there no AMs or MLAs on the list? Is it be...Why are there no AMs or MLAs on the list? Is it because there are no LGB AMs and MLAs, or is it because AMs and MLAs have no influence?<BR/><BR/>I think we should be told!Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39025092840754107842007-12-27T02:43:00.000+00:002007-12-27T02:43:00.000+00:00A man should not build his life on the foundation ...A man should not build his life on the foundation of his lowest and most self-destructive urges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28218802151719899202007-12-27T02:11:00.000+00:002007-12-27T02:11:00.000+00:00to be two places below Chris Bryant is a bit humil...<I>to be two places below Chris Bryant is a bit humiliating</I><BR/><BR/>Not content with those sandwiched in between, Iain?Machiavelli's Understudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18150445761766304667noreply@blogger.com