tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post3177491825670852968..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: LibDem Candidate: Why I Joined the ToriesIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81280626762678258312008-06-13T01:04:00.000+01:002008-06-13T01:04:00.000+01:00But if they are his views, why was he in the LibDe...But if they are his views, why was he in the LibDems in the first place. Surely he realised that they are not an anti-European party which believes that sort of guff about a 'broken society'?<BR/><BR/>I do think that people can change their minds - I have been in both the LibDem and Labour parties and I'm currently in neither - but I'm also aware thats because my politics don't fit any one party easily. I do think, though, that the LD's do tend to attract essentially apolitical people who are good at community campaigning, people whose actual views may be a long way from Libdem ideas.<BR/><BR/>Sloan appears to be one of them.Merseymikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07231364271812168188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54354034878382976362008-03-28T16:51:00.000+00:002008-03-28T16:51:00.000+00:00How about "The Tories: Why We Are Now So Attractiv...How about "The Tories: Why We Are Now So Attractive To Lib Dems"? No? Thought not.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11167051489042519912008-03-28T12:02:00.000+00:002008-03-28T12:02:00.000+00:00It does read like it was written by Conservative C...It does read like it was written by Conservative Central Office. No particular issue on which he broke just that the LDs are all dreadful & the sun shines out of Cameron.<BR/><BR/>It would have been better if it had been written by him or even by somebody who understood liberal principles (granted that excludes most members of the LDs)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48793799117566262652008-03-28T11:54:00.000+00:002008-03-28T11:54:00.000+00:00Most of what he says is true (although there is th...Most of what he says is true (although there is the usual sjip jumer's spin as well), but you could say the same for us as well. What do we really stand for at the moment? DC is playing clever politics by not saying too much, and allowing GB to shoot himself below the waterline.<BR/><BR/>But what do we really believe as a party? limited government? lower taxes? nation state?Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06514885826616402615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53466328247383726512008-03-28T11:38:00.000+00:002008-03-28T11:38:00.000+00:00As someone who lives just outside Hull, I'm afraid...As someone who lives just outside Hull, I'm afraid I must point out this is hardly a coup for the Conservative Party. Out of the 59 Hull Councillors there are only 2 official Conservatives.<BR/>The struggle for power is between Labour and the Lib Dems and the rise of the latter is not to do with political ideology but competence, ie Labour have proved they couldn't run a fish and chip shop never mind a city.<BR/>However, the Humber will freeze over before the Tories even figure meaningfully on the political map; partly because those who can flee Hull for the surrounding villages -represented by the likes of David Davis.<BR/>As for Mr Sloan (of whom I had previously never heard), I would have been more impressed if instead of simply repeating his general accusation of thirst for power(there's something unusual for a political party) he had given specific details of Lib Dem wrongdoing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53709337376875726502008-03-28T11:10:00.000+00:002008-03-28T11:10:00.000+00:00Good riddance. That article is utter rubbish. He d...Good riddance. That article is utter rubbish. He doesnt actually give any good argument as to how the Tories are: <BR/><BR/>'a political party founded on principles and belief.' <BR/><BR/>It's just rhetoric.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39972658473881580782008-03-28T10:41:00.000+00:002008-03-28T10:41:00.000+00:00Perhaps he wants to write "Winning Here" and "The ...Perhaps he wants to write "Winning Here" and "The Only Alternative" on his election material, and not have to lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80078490564506503802008-03-28T09:32:00.000+00:002008-03-28T09:32:00.000+00:00Yes, it would seem that some of the more generic c...Yes, it would seem that some of the more generic chunks might have been drafted by CCHQ - though what Cllr Sloan says about the Lib Dems certainly matches my experience.<BR/><BR/>Also, whilst I welcome his defection, I suspect there might be an element of thwarted personal ambition behind Cllr Sloan's decision. (Though that hardly makes him unique and is, of course, the 'line' being heavily spun locally by the LDs.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66427909589093291192008-03-28T09:25:00.000+00:002008-03-28T09:25:00.000+00:00That sounds pretty authentic to me and every word ...That sounds pretty authentic to me and every word is true , it reflects what a lot of Liberals are saying as he myth of their neutrality collpases and they are revealed as Labour-liteNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74843715134628156022008-03-28T07:15:00.000+00:002008-03-28T07:15:00.000+00:00And What about Dirk Hazell, former Chair of London...And What about Dirk Hazell, former Chair of London Conservatives defecting to the Lib Dems. This has been hushed up by the London Tories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22978603425301545512008-03-28T00:32:00.000+00:002008-03-28T00:32:00.000+00:00It is amazing what Conservative Central Office can...It is amazing what Conservative Central Office can write for you when you defect! (and true of other parties when they receive defectors as well). All parties get to enjoy their moments in the sun at times like these.Tim Leunighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08930175702683617125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79853289823858485942008-03-28T00:14:00.000+00:002008-03-28T00:14:00.000+00:00Fascinating and truFascinating and truNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.com