tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2586561481803792732..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: More Gerrymandering From LabourIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56058807671315379202010-02-01T13:32:06.388+00:002010-02-01T13:32:06.388+00:00Huge Scandal?
Tell us again how you miss Tony Bla...Huge Scandal?<br /><br />Tell us again how you miss Tony Blair Iain?<br /><br />I don't know how you manage to wear these two hats.<br /><br />Outrage when you can, then the blind eye when it suits.<br /><br />Of course this is a scandal, there are many from this lot, why? Because they are shameless career politicians. <br /><br />For your blog/business to be a success you need respect from all sides so some of these scandals get a pass?OldSlaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04807170326475262427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12156077462314673002010-02-01T12:10:35.238+00:002010-02-01T12:10:35.238+00:00Alex - the point is that surely some areas (such a...Alex - the point is that surely some areas (such as tory controlled Birmingham) should receive funding - especially as west midlands is one of worst hit regions in recession, but more likely manchester or liverpool as they have labour mps and councils.<br /><br />You would have to be almost blind to this to not admit that this is what labour are doing, but it is not just them, other parties do it when in power. Unfortunately they have a complex which means they are on the side of right!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222432177194547336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27600001275048126482010-02-01T10:31:45.466+00:002010-02-01T10:31:45.466+00:00I wish someone would change the boundaries in Wake...I wish someone would change the boundaries in Wakefield so it only encapsulated the intelligent - I know there'd only be seven of us but it'd help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66228404014323475422010-02-01T10:23:47.472+00:002010-02-01T10:23:47.472+00:00@ Alex
Care to put up your sources?@ Alex<br /><br />Care to put up your sources?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74766523173233642562010-02-01T10:09:42.813+00:002010-02-01T10:09:42.813+00:00Labour do have form on this.
The LSC cock up wh...Labour do have form on this. <br /><br />The LSC cock up when they offered colleges money for redevelopment and oversubscribed 8 billion to 2 billion. Reported in telegraph that the colleges that have been successful are in Labour constituencies.<br /><br />Local Enterprise and Growth Initiative (LEGI) fund - I know someone involved and after competitive bidding from councils, I think all went to Labour constituencies. I know for a fact that locally our tory controlled council was recommended as best bid by Government Office, but a labour controlled council got allocated the money.<br />What about the union modernisation funds, and local DFID money funding the TUC rather than international aid.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222432177194547336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37795886219229101742010-02-01T08:39:09.586+00:002010-02-01T08:39:09.586+00:00They've been at it for years. Look at the cons...They've been at it for years. Look at the constituencies that received LEGI funding 2005/8...<br /><br />http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/communities/legibaselinereportAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23131901599617686252010-02-01T01:14:16.897+00:002010-02-01T01:14:16.897+00:00That's not what gerrymandering means.
I'...That's not what gerrymandering means.<br /><br /><br />I'm skeptical as to the NotW's insinuation. If Labour wanted to target their constituencies with extra funding pre-election surely there'd be more effective ways than investing in wind farms, digital infrastructure, and so forth. They're hardly populist measures are they?Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07488606547700008840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28479951198434289952010-02-01T00:57:41.032+00:002010-02-01T00:57:41.032+00:00Unsworth said...
"@ Alex
It's probably es...Unsworth said...<br />"@ Alex<br />It's probably escaped your notice, but this 'work' on 'wave power' and 'offshore wind' is being carried out on land by humans."<br /><br />It probably escaped the notice of many readers of my previous post that the UK used to have a wind turbine manufacturing capacity on the Isle of Wight, but that has closed down. All of our components for offshore power now come from overseas and the contracts for constructing them will go to construction and engineering companies from all over the country and elsewhere.<br /><br />The point about the location being offshore is that capital is supposed to create long term jobs or benefits. Most industrial investment happens to be in Labour constituencies for fairly obvious reasons. The investment that is going into offshore power is not benefitting any particular onshore community and is not creating jobs solely in Labour constituenciesAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13775753218753337766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29069854856213589292010-01-31T23:09:19.814+00:002010-01-31T23:09:19.814+00:00Of course we should expect more to be in labour co...Of course we should expect more to be in labour constituencies because those constituencies are more frequently industrial, however it seems mad to think that 0% could be conservative, nationalist, or other. I mean I've no idea how you would actually moderate that. Even if you somehow set it up (who? the civil service?) so that grants were given initially to labour areas presumably there is some collaboration, shared project codes for funding...<br /><br />I mean I'd understand if the money was distributed from certain places....but I just need more info to believe this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40983419121947317042010-01-31T21:35:00.236+00:002010-01-31T21:35:00.236+00:00Isn’t this pork barrel politics rather than gerry-...Isn’t this pork barrel politics rather than gerry-mandering or am I being a pendant ? Did we ever find out what Paisley got for slipping Lisbon through , remember that ?Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2158489717394102612010-01-31T20:18:37.761+00:002010-01-31T20:18:37.761+00:00The term for this is not ’gerrymander’ [which rela...The term for this is not ’gerrymander’ [which relates to fixing political boundaries for partisan gain] but: <b>’‘pork barrel, n. Chiefly U.S.</b><br /> . . 2. Polit. (orig. U.S.). The state's financial resources regarded as a source of distribution to meet regional expenditure; esp. central funds (in the U.S., chiefly Federal funds) appropriated for local projects designed to please the electorate or legislators and win votes.<br /> . . 1976 H. WILSON Governance of Brit. x. 172 In Westminster, the Government has complete control over expenditure... Thus, in Britain, ‘pork-barrel’ expenditure is ruled out. <br />1994 Maclean's 13 June 26/1 Power is based on the pork barrel and purchased with patronage.’ [OED]rob's unclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03001074396029714388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29935297330992004942010-01-31T20:17:03.919+00:002010-01-31T20:17:03.919+00:00Alex:
Go to Google Image Search. Put in "fac...Alex:<br /><br />Go to Google Image Search. Put in "facepalm.jpg". That will give you a very good idea of how I felt when I read your post.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14210245445771564283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4751244555526475392010-01-31T19:59:38.460+00:002010-01-31T19:59:38.460+00:004% went to firms in Lib Dem constituencies, Gordon...4% went to firms in Lib Dem constituencies, Gordon Brown will be spitting tacks, it all should have gone to Labour seats.Not a sheephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14123293202225008273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50642142747157436422010-01-31T19:26:59.134+00:002010-01-31T19:26:59.134+00:00Iain Dale said "I am not arguing the fund is ...Iain Dale said <i>"I am not arguing the fund is a good thing. I am arguing that it is a scandal that 96% of the money in it is going to Labout seats. As far as I am concerned the whole thing should be abolished."</i> <br /><br />Looks like we're in complete agreement, then. We must both be thick. <br /><br />I think I'll have a large glass of red wine now...The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1019245430942111312010-01-31T19:19:44.601+00:002010-01-31T19:19:44.601+00:00One Tory blogger's been doing his bit to prop ...One Tory blogger's been doing his bit to prop up the Viagra trade, though he says he was hacked...<br /><br />http://turniptaliban.blogspot.com/2010/01/stiff-opposition-for-yarmouth-tories.htmlTurniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04183470344407183306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80602877684922173642010-01-31T19:15:38.182+00:002010-01-31T19:15:38.182+00:00I am not arguing the fund is a good thing. I am ar...I am not arguing the fund is a good thing. I am arguing that it is a scandal that 96% of the money in it is going to Labout seats. As far as I am concerned the whole thing should be abolished.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57267047209713396942010-01-31T19:13:08.403+00:002010-01-31T19:13:08.403+00:00Iain Dale said "Grim Reaper, you really are p...Iain Dale said <i>"Grim Reaper, you really are preposterous. If you cannot see the scandal in this you must be even thicker than your comments normally indicate."</i> <br /><br />You're very easily upset, aren't you? I'm making a perfectly valid point. Tories are traditionally against the state getting involved in private companies and industry. If they still were, they'd be demanding this fund was shut down, not complaining via yourself that their constituencies are not getting a slice of the pie.<br /><br />What on earth would Thatcher have made of this confusion?The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21888471352997088742010-01-31T19:09:09.146+00:002010-01-31T19:09:09.146+00:00MikeyP said "So why doesn't Dave ask this...MikeyP said <i>"So why doesn't Dave ask this kind of question in PMQ's rather than the bland rubbish he normally asks?"</i> <br /><br />Because Broon wouldn't answer the question anyway. He'd just go on about "savage Tory cuts" (which are nowhere near savage enough in my opinion) whilst mocking Call Me Dave's particularly airbrushed complexion.<br /><br />Why not question him instead about his personal contribution to "saving the world", as he put it? These contributions include assaulting a senior government adviser, pulling a secretary out of her chair because she wasn't typing fast enough for his liking, hurling foul-mouthed abuse at aides and junior staff, throwing a mobile phone at a Government chauffeur and so forth...The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33109548578042305192010-01-31T19:05:38.426+00:002010-01-31T19:05:38.426+00:00Grim Reaper, you really are preposterous. If you c...Grim Reaper, you really are preposterous. If you cannt see the scandal in this you must be even thicker than your comments normally indicate.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12311707007311380662010-01-31T19:03:44.464+00:002010-01-31T19:03:44.464+00:00This is no scandal at all. I thought Tories were t...This is no scandal at all. I thought Tories were traditionally against the state poking its nose into private industry.<br /><br />Quiet news day, Iain?The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41295368970219507422010-01-31T18:54:20.162+00:002010-01-31T18:54:20.162+00:00Bit counter-intutive this and also a little bit me...Bit counter-intutive this and also a little bit mean but good. Means we don't have to later. Oooohh - feel bad now.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45978693974817560162010-01-31T16:53:38.469+00:002010-01-31T16:53:38.469+00:00Of course printing money devalues our currency and...Of course printing money devalues our currency and therefore potentially helps all exporters. Good times!<br /> However the manufacturing base has halved in size under Labour so there is less to be gained in the short term from this effect. Bad times!Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80032043765222694872010-01-31T16:42:24.186+00:002010-01-31T16:42:24.186+00:00Labour has vast form on this:
http://www.thisislo...Labour has vast form on this:<br /><br />http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23379152-revealed-how-labour-constituencies-got-the-best-healthcare-transport-and-policing.do<br /><br />Is but a taster....Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44254802165916950702010-01-31T16:40:55.964+00:002010-01-31T16:40:55.964+00:00I wonder how much of these funds are being launder...I wonder how much of these funds are being laundered back into Labour party funds by political donations by the recipient companies?Hairy Arsed Blokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01769898912204462914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50659406202797559432010-01-31T16:12:01.222+00:002010-01-31T16:12:01.222+00:00@Scepitalsteve.
Edinburgh as Labour Heartland? Y...@Scepitalsteve.<br /><br />Edinburgh as Labour Heartland? You need to check your stats for the past 25 years.<br /><br />Much of Edinburgh (where I went to Uni, and lived two years after) is fairly conservative. <br /><br />Thatcherites really had to fight to lose it (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Central_(UK_Parliament_constituency) )Paul Halsallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602075031268155220noreply@blogger.com