tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2579546207548711579..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Let the Blog Wars CeaseIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger124125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33392218048281481602007-02-15T14:22:00.000+00:002007-02-15T14:22:00.000+00:00Katherine - I have no inside information as to wha...Katherine - I have no inside information as to what other people are wanting to imply, sorry!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74477346556472845402007-02-15T09:30:00.000+00:002007-02-15T09:30:00.000+00:00Okay, Mark P - now you've told me the link between...Okay, Mark P - now you've told me the link between Tom Watson and Tim Ireland (and thank you for that) - now would you care to tell me how it fits into this whole debacle? What are you suggesting is the result of this link?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89319917183648051212007-02-15T08:40:00.000+00:002007-02-15T08:40:00.000+00:00Katherine: Tim Ireland helped Tom Watson get blogg...Katherine: Tim Ireland helped Tom Watson get blogging in the first place (both, if I remember correctly, in selling the idea of blogging and also sorting out the technical side of things).<BR/><BR/>[Apologies for lowering the tone of the comments by being polite and factual. I'm sure others can resume the insults and innuendo momentarily.]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21957918838125326392007-02-14T12:00:00.000+00:002007-02-14T12:00:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71103008499719816372007-02-14T10:00:00.000+00:002007-02-14T10:00:00.000+00:00And the poster calling themselves "ingenuos innoce...And the poster calling themselves "ingenuos innocence" - why don't you tell me about Tom Watson's connection to Tim Ireland instead of implying something. Honestly, just come out with it. I've been reading all this stuff from a point of view of having no point of view. I am merely voicing an opinion from the outside. If you have something to add to the debate, then do so with cold hard facts and I'll be grateful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59453315288251979862007-02-14T09:58:00.000+00:002007-02-14T09:58:00.000+00:00"blog purge", my point was that the criticism from..."blog purge", my point was that the criticism from "the great terror" accusing other bloggers of being Gordon Brown's thugs was coming from a point of ignorance, since they clearly hadn't read the blogs in question.<BR/><BR/>Since you have now confirmed that point, perhaps "the great terror" could perhaps conclude, in a spirit of openness and honesty, that he has no idea whether or not those bloggers are Gordon's thugs and that therefore his comment has no merit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64238765832028578652007-02-14T06:57:00.000+00:002007-02-14T06:57:00.000+00:00Someone anonymous said:To those who think it's a b...Someone anonymous said:<BR/><BR/><I>To those who think it's a bit harsh on Tim Ireland... well, if you don't want to dance, don't get up when the music starts. He is acting like an obsesive. In the Good Old Days (TM) on USENET, we knew that type so very well. It's always September on the Internet....</I><BR/><BR/>That misrepresents the situation completely. Tim Ireland has been around the British political scene for years. He knows how it works. It's newcomers like Iain Dale and Paul Staines who are the clueless "Septembrists" here.Dave Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17165198648105678551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13395207839070491462007-02-14T05:29:00.000+00:002007-02-14T05:29:00.000+00:00Iain - Never explain, never apologise. It doesn't...Iain - Never explain, never apologise. It doesn't do any good at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75603712389497376122007-02-13T23:50:00.000+00:002007-02-13T23:50:00.000+00:00I've had an Iain fueding with me on my blog. I am...I've had an Iain fueding with me on my blog. I am ignoring him and his 17-year-old fans. I'm talking about radio presnter, Iain Lee. not Iain Dale, of course.<BR/><BR/>Blog wars are good for readership. Just like on "Big Brother," controvesy is good for ratings. People grow bored with "love fests."Joey Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878070229092127628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49675847667202094442007-02-13T20:35:00.000+00:002007-02-13T20:35:00.000+00:00"you really haven't been reading the blogs that yo..."you really haven't been reading the blogs that you are criticising." <BR/><BR/>No one does, that why the authors of these blogs have re-located here Katherine, like pilot fish.<BR/><BR/>The lack of loyalty of these nu-lab types is incredible, they're cheerfully blithe to attacks on Tony these days, but discover a rancid self-righteousness when anyone dares question the cult of personality of Gordon. I almost feel sympathy for TB, really. What posessed these blogging nitwits to make a 'moral' stand on behalf of Gordon's squalid Smith Institute? I think Gordon has all the help he needs with Rupert on board.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88013492007165901842007-02-13T20:21:00.000+00:002007-02-13T20:21:00.000+00:00Katherine you're a little wide-eyed, aren't you aw...Katherine you're a little wide-eyed, aren't you aware of Tom Watson's relationship with Tim Ireland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73102803703504631112007-02-13T19:55:00.000+00:002007-02-13T19:55:00.000+00:00Well said, Iain. Further squabbles only undermine ...Well said, Iain. Further squabbles only undermine the respectable image bloggers are trying to cultivate, and give further ammunition to the "old" media and their anti-blogging agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81976091829905323812007-02-13T18:21:00.000+00:002007-02-13T18:21:00.000+00:00I have gone through the posts on this thread today...I have gone through the posts on this thread today and deleted several anonymous posts which were offensive - not to me but to others. I'm going to be much tougher on this in future. Too many people think they can post anynoymous rubbish on here and get away with it. No longer.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30962654437729733332007-02-13T17:25:00.000+00:002007-02-13T17:25:00.000+00:00Look, erm, can't...can't, well, I mean, can't we a...Look, erm, can't...can't, well, I mean, can't we all, all of us.. can't we all, j-j-just, get along???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63395693534639579712007-02-13T16:14:00.000+00:002007-02-13T16:14:00.000+00:00To "the great terror" - if you think any of this i...To "the great terror" - if you think any of this is about "Gordon's thugs" then you really haven't been reading the blogs that you are criticising.<BR/><BR/>The issue raised by some bloggers about the piece on the Smith Insitute was not whether or not it was breaking the rules on charities - it may well be doing so - but that Iain Dale is himself a trustee of a very similar think tank, but failed to declare that. That absence of any such declaration casts doubt on his bona fides in that case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86309084876400468662007-02-13T15:31:00.000+00:002007-02-13T15:31:00.000+00:00As Private Eye and Michael Crick have both raised ...As Private Eye and Michael Crick have both raised questions about the Smith Institute will they be subjected to similar unpleasantness on behalf of Gordon's thugs in the blogosphere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86415228421813741482007-02-13T15:04:00.000+00:002007-02-13T15:04:00.000+00:00May I just say that I come to this with no particu...May I just say that I come to this with no particular loyalty to any of the blogs involved, and I have to say Iain that your defence of yourself is a little disingenuous. <BR/><BR/>Tim Ireland/Manic's original criticism was of Guido's comments policy. Guido has not responded to that. His double standards when faced with some revelations about his own past - comparable to his own variety of political gossip - is telling.<BR/><BR/>Your own involvement, calling/impliedly calling Tim Ireland a "nihilist" then calling someone a liar when they pointed to this, has not been dealt with. Your semi-apology is a bit pathetic I'm afraid.<BR/><BR/>The rather unpleasant name calling I've seen in these comments are more personal and nasty than any I have seen on any "left wing" sites on this issue, so whoever it was who said that "the left" is characterised by malice and intolerance is really living in a glass house.<BR/><BR/>Take a good look at yourselves people before casting stones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15792631268502907152007-02-13T13:59:00.000+00:002007-02-13T13:59:00.000+00:00I read some of the bloggerheads site and rather wi...I read some of the bloggerheads site and rather wish I hadn't as I now feel unclean. It isn't a very good site considering its creator is supposed to be a technowhiz. I guess the diatribe against Dale and Guido is motivated by jealousy due to the fact that these "amateurs" have probably the most successful blogs in the country, if not the planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64906161080033097412007-02-13T12:50:00.000+00:002007-02-13T12:50:00.000+00:00I'm a lifelong Labour voter (until Iraq, that is)....I'm a lifelong Labour voter (until Iraq, that is). I consider Iain's and Guido's blogs to be an essential part of the democratic process, and applaud both of them in their efforts to uncover what the Labour Party is trying so hard to cover up. Quite *what* part democracy plays in our country any more is hard to say, but it's not a given any more, and this bunch would gladly take it away at the drop of a hat, so authoritarian and so paranoid have they got. <BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work, Iain & Guido.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14743040451108899822007-02-13T12:12:00.000+00:002007-02-13T12:12:00.000+00:00You seem to be defining blog war as people having ...You seem to be defining blog war as people having a go at you. I think perhaps you need to get out more. I was blissfully unaware of this spat before I read this post and I shall be making no efforts to find out more now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14023368518937268162007-02-13T05:16:00.000+00:002007-02-13T05:16:00.000+00:00That is the problem with discussion that take plac...That is the problem with discussion that take place outside of the pub -- not only do people utter fighting words from a safe distance, they also get petty and mean because they all too often forget that this collection of letters on the screen is actually another living, breathing human being.<BR/><BR/>Classic case of netrage, I'm afraid, or, to update the term, 'blograge'.<BR/><BR/>Und willst du nicht mein Bruder sein, dann schreib ich dir die Ehre klein...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47526785701102013352007-02-13T02:38:00.000+00:002007-02-13T02:38:00.000+00:00"I think Ellee summed it up nicely: "he gives me t..."I think Ellee summed it up nicely: "he gives me the shivers""<BR/>Must admit that when I discovered that he had picked my comment on Guido's site today as the "One" I found it a bit creepy. I hope that he and his friends get a life shortly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62823727717182759852007-02-13T01:04:00.000+00:002007-02-13T01:04:00.000+00:00henderson 10.48pm Gordo is inviolable? That'...henderson 10.48pm<BR/><BR/> Gordo is inviolable?<BR/><BR/> That's not what I've heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3209446348707509572007-02-13T00:23:00.000+00:002007-02-13T00:23:00.000+00:00I have been warned to stay clear of this untidy bu...I have been warned to stay clear of this untidy business but I run over quickly and give you a big hug 'cause I know you're a good boy - or at least you were when I knew ye.....xxxUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559075984420788701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74004260946805851642007-02-13T00:16:00.000+00:002007-02-13T00:16:00.000+00:00Iain,In the past few days you have shown an amazin...Iain,<BR/><BR/>In the past few days you have shown an amazing amount of restraint, particularly in response to a certain Antipodean nutter.<BR/><BR/>This guy needs professional help. He obviously has certain talents (like putting Boris Johnson's web site together) but his recent behaviour against yourself and Guido would worry anyone.<BR/><BR/>Best ignore him...he's not worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com