tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2487335475127477092..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: My Morning's Canvassing in FakenhamIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33417906255990697312007-04-22T22:29:00.000+01:002007-04-22T22:29:00.000+01:00Hilary Benn battered at the Unison conference, thi...Hilary Benn battered at the Unison conference, this is the depth of NuLep unpopularity. If a 'decent' (NuLep adjusted) minister cannot even defend their record on the NHS without heckling from trade unionists then it really is curtains for the Labour Party. <BR/><BR/>John McDonnell/Cruddas/Meacher should pull out of the NuLep races and start a new party in my opinion. The idea that NuLep can recover from this parlous state is fanciful. Brown/Bliar/Goldsmith/Jowell/Blears/Straw/Prescott/Browne/Hewitt/Levy/Turner/Powell/Hain/Beckett etc are so totally busted in terms of credibility with the public why would you bother with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91390801519586155062007-04-22T19:43:00.000+01:002007-04-22T19:43:00.000+01:00"I presume these are the same people who could nev..."I presume these are the same people who could never vote for a homosexual as their MP, which is why you lost to Norman Lamb by over 10,000 votes in what had been the Tories' number one target seat with a Lib Dem maority of less than 1,000?"<BR/><BR/>It's very sad to say this, but unfortunately, I think this *is* the reason Iain lost so heavily in Norfolk North.<BR/><BR/>They are not the most.. erm.. cosmpolitan? of people in Norfolk. Believe me.<BR/><BR/>Iain should have toned it down to win there.<BR/><BR/>From what I hear, he "toned it up", which was about the worst thing he could have done.<BR/><BR/>Horses for courses and all that..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70557855956074176442007-04-22T19:36:00.000+01:002007-04-22T19:36:00.000+01:00"They think that he is an arrogant self reguarding..."They think that he is an arrogant self reguarding shit but Deep down want to shag him."<BR/><BR/>Tell me about it.<BR/><BR/>Get this all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18515534863962174632007-04-22T18:24:00.000+01:002007-04-22T18:24:00.000+01:00Anonymous 2.28pmI've just checked and I now realis...Anonymous 2.28pm<BR/>I've just checked and I now realise that the disabled driver who was pulled from his car in Aberdeen and punched and kicked about the head did not in fact die. So that's all right then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63900653228030843832007-04-22T15:57:00.000+01:002007-04-22T15:57:00.000+01:00realpolitk:thanks for tip!realpolitk:<BR/><BR/>thanks for tip!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1043871843477584912007-04-22T14:28:00.000+01:002007-04-22T14:28:00.000+01:00anon, 14:05If you'd actually read my post, rather ...anon, 14:05<BR/><BR/>If you'd actually read my post, rather than selectively editing it, you'd see that I was suggesting that this "ugly English nationlism" was directly caused by the government not dealing with the West Lothian question.<BR/><BR/>I WANT democracy for England. Most Scots do. We lived with the UK parliament voting through _specifically Scottish_ legislation for 290 years. England suffering the same situation in reverse is just as unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>And I don't hear any Scottish Nationalists saying it's unacceptable for an Englishman to be PM of the United Kingdom. (Perhaps because the Scots understand that the Union is SUPPOSED to be a partnership of equals).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60746077585400848102007-04-22T14:05:00.000+01:002007-04-22T14:05:00.000+01:00"Hopefully there will soon be some effort to deal ..."Hopefully there will soon be some effort to deal with the West Lothian question and this kind of ugly English nationalism"<BR/>Errr....If English nationalism is ugly does that make Scottish Nationalism something out of the shop of horrors????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62392856949499018052007-04-22T12:55:00.000+01:002007-04-22T12:55:00.000+01:00Anon 11:26 said:"A couple of people said they coul...Anon 11:26 said:<BR/><BR/>"A couple of people said they could never vote for a Scot as PM"<BR/><BR/>That's a bit racist, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>I presume these are the same people who could never vote for a homosexual as their MP"<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's not a question of racism, it's a question of self preservation for the people of England. We have learned not to elect a Scots PM or government again in response to the appalling discrimination inflicted on those of us in England - whether English or not - by a government with Scots in most of the top jobs.<BR/><BR/>English taxes have been pillaged to fund exemplary levels of Scottish services and education, while England's sick and elderly, even cancer sufferers have been denied the exemplary care and treatment that's routinely funded for Scotland. England's students are either kept out of HE or saddled with huge debts by Scots MPs - who voted for elitist services and higher education for Scotland. England's health service and education system has been pauperised and our public services near bankrupted in an attempt by nulab to buy votes in Scotland.<BR/><BR/>Even worse, nulab have effectively tried to ethnically cleanse the English out of existence by smearing the words 'England' and 'English' as racist terms. Those of us who object to this racist attack on us are smeared as 'Little Englanders' - the only racist expression which is still legal in UK. And nulab have attempted to divide and rule the people of England by splitting us up into regional factions, setting us against each other in a dog eat dog fight for funding and services. <BR/><BR/>In view of all of that, why are you surprised that the people of England have woken up to this scandalous discrimination against us by the Scots Mafia clique posing as our national government and are fighting back?<BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23207038710421586802007-04-22T12:00:00.000+01:002007-04-22T12:00:00.000+01:00For the benefit of anonymous 9.41AM & 9.42AM (and ...For the benefit of anonymous 9.41AM & 9.42AM (and anybody else)<BR/><BR/>If you type:<BR/>This is <B><a href="http://tinyurl.com/34hwz2"></B>my link<B></a></B>.<BR/><BR/>you get:<BR/>This is <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/34hwz2" REL="nofollow">my link</A>.Rich Teehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14037296506942507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-355479826608172122007-04-22T11:58:00.000+01:002007-04-22T11:58:00.000+01:00Sleaze, even if it is 'second-hand'..http://www.te...Sleaze, even if it is 'second-hand'..<BR/><BR/>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=FDXSVGBYN2LAZQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/04/22/nhons22.xmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82764069385288279302007-04-22T11:56:00.000+01:002007-04-22T11:56:00.000+01:00Forget canvassing in Fakenham, Dullsville...[yawn]...Forget canvassing in Fakenham, Dullsville...[yawn]. <BR/><BR/>It is Sunday, Mr Dale, and it's sleaze we are after, pure unadulterated sleaze...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49335241543382587922007-04-22T11:31:00.000+01:002007-04-22T11:31:00.000+01:00Iain, do you think the Tories will try to reverse ...Iain, do you think the Tories will try to reverse Gordon Brown's decision to turn Britain into a tax haven for dodgy foreign billionaires, money laundering gangsters and spivvy businessmen?<BR/><BR/>As the IMF brands Britain a tax haven, Gordon Brown has to defend himself against claims the rules favour the super-wealthy, writes Nick Mathiason <BR/><BR/>Sunday April 22, 2007<BR/>The Observer <BR/><BR/><BR/>The International Monetary Fund has effectively branded Britain a tax haven. The world's most important financial organisation last week published a working paper seeking a definition of offshore financial centres. For the very first time it ranked Britain alongside the likes of Bermuda and the Cayman Islands - unregulated jurisdictions associated with illicit funds....<BR/><BR/>http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,2062543,00.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62581322842176242032007-04-22T11:26:00.000+01:002007-04-22T11:26:00.000+01:00"A couple of people said they could never vote for..."A couple of people said they could never vote for a Scot as PM"<BR/><BR/>That's a bit racist, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>I presume these are the same people who could never vote for a homosexual as their MP, which is why you lost to Norman Lamb by over 10,000 votes in what had been the Tories' number one target seat with a Lib Dem maority of less than 1,000?<BR/><BR/>And anonymous at 9:36am, no one was murdered for supporting England. Don't lie! And are you seriosuly telling me that no one anywhere in England has ever been assaulted for wearing the "wrong" football shirt? Somehow I doubt it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77168462782419857382007-04-22T10:08:00.000+01:002007-04-22T10:08:00.000+01:00Don't underestimate the extent of the moral and po...Don't underestimate the extent of the moral and political dilemma for Lib Dems these days, Ian. A significant proportion of Lib Dems are now former Lib Dem supporters and genuinely uncertain about who to vote for. <BR/><BR/>Many of us who believe it's our moral and civic duty to vote are so sickened by corruption in political life and mendacious politicians that we no longer know who to vote for at either national or local level. <BR/><BR/>I'm gobsmacked by the volatility of my political allegiance these days. I continually bounce to and fro between devout Cameronian, ballot paper spoiler and even Lib Dems returner. I've never in my life been in this horribly uncertain position and never felt so conflicted about my political allegiance. <BR/><BR/>The wishy washy Lib Dems used to be an easy way out for those of us who are totally repelled by political corruption. We could do our civic duty by voting for them, safe in the knowledge that this, apparently, slightly more ethical party would never win power in most constituencies.<BR/><BR/>Now, however, the Lib Dems are tainted with mendacity at national level and by collusive deals with nulab which betrayed their community politics ideals at local level. The prospect of a mendacious nulab-Lib Dem pact nightmare in Government is very real too. <BR/><BR/>I still haven't a clue whether I shall vote or spoil my ballot paper on polling day, let alone who vote to for if I do vote. I suspect I'll make up mind at the very last moment. <BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67176181024196632752007-04-22T09:42:00.000+01:002007-04-22T09:42:00.000+01:00That didn't fit, so let's try this link:http://tin...That didn't fit, so let's try this link:<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/34hwz2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33461577317630055392007-04-22T09:41:00.001+01:002007-04-22T09:41:00.001+01:00Iain, I don't think you've ever reported a canvass...Iain, I don't think you've ever reported a canvassing session which didn't end with everyone being a Tory. Happily for the people of North Norfolk, it's what they actually vote for and not what they tell you ojn the doorstep that counts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65582049520600327872007-04-22T09:41:00.000+01:002007-04-22T09:41:00.000+01:00http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1687490.ece<BR/><BR/>from this morning's Times...<BR/><BR/>wonderful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26005204120690653322007-04-22T09:36:00.000+01:002007-04-22T09:36:00.000+01:00The first post here complains of 'ugly English nat...The first post here complains of 'ugly English nationalism'. I seem to remember that during the World Cup the Scots murdered one man and beat up a small boy just because they were supporters of England. No-one in England has yet been killed or beaten up for being Scottish. So when it happens just remember - you started it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38380546322109547272007-04-22T07:59:00.000+01:002007-04-22T07:59:00.000+01:00I see the Brownites are sticking the knife into Mi...I see the Brownites are sticking the knife into Miliband. Piece in the "Mail on Sunday" about how young David took advantage of Inheritance Tax avoidance schemes to inherit his father's £1 million+ house.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I had no idea that being a Marxist academic was so lucrative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3613030688710418282007-04-22T01:28:00.000+01:002007-04-22T01:28:00.000+01:00Iain,I can confirm your findings after a house hun...Iain,<BR/><BR/>I can confirm your findings after a house hunting visit to Fakenham, Wells, Holt etc over the past few days.<BR/><BR/>I think the real question is what is going to emerge from wreckage of the NuLab implosion. NuLab are utterly unelectable as a result of Bliar and Broon, people are either embarrassed that they have EVER voted Labour and I simply cannot find anyone who will admit to intending to vote for them in sunny norfolk. Most people are sickened by the corruption, lies and total lack of humanity shown by Labour. The NHS and migrant stories are playing very badly against NuLab it seems in my discussions with locals (given they have already discounted them as an electoral option/force).<BR/><BR/>The death of NuLab was confirmed for me by the appalling performance of Hilary Benn on Any Questions. I am staggered that even he, the son of a highly principled and widely admired politician, could be corrupted by NuLab. His views on Iraq were frankly immoral, his pensions comment idiotic and he came across as an insincere wanker- something I never imagined I would/could ever accuse someone with that surname of in my lifetime. If that is the level they now operate at they will be lucky to hold a lead over the Libdems on a % of national vote. i thought Hilary Benns performance was offensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73722526773223033382007-04-22T01:13:00.000+01:002007-04-22T01:13:00.000+01:00PJare you the same pj who worked/s for jonny corpo...PJ<BR/><BR/>are you the same pj who worked/s for jonny corporate? Did your son attempt a monty don in the loft?<BR/><BR/>either way your are bang on and i cant wait to see the labour party implode.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12996047737729765382007-04-22T00:43:00.000+01:002007-04-22T00:43:00.000+01:00I had the pleasant experience of baiting a Scotsma...I had the pleasant experience of baiting a Scotsman in de Hems tonight who accepted self-determination for scotland but would not transfer the same privilege to the Orkneys or Shetlands. He muttered some evil nonsense about abiding by the will of the majority.<BR/><BR/>Would oil undermine their principled allegiance to democracy? If they pass a consultative referendum on independence under a Tory administration, I hope that we have the courage to allow the Orkneys and Shetlands a chance to stay outside the United Scottish Soviet Republic. An amendment in the enabling bill would suffice, with corroborating referenda.Philip Chastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704065379015663566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48127290537660635442007-04-22T00:15:00.000+01:002007-04-22T00:15:00.000+01:00noelYou're not de man! Non blood!noel<BR/><BR/>You're not de man! Non blood!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63985171100365184902007-04-22T00:13:00.000+01:002007-04-22T00:13:00.000+01:00I was campaigning in Sheffield last weekend and ju...I was campaigning in Sheffield last weekend and just after I knocked on someone's door, I saw that they had a barely noticeable Liberal Democrat pamphlet cut out and stuck in their window. They claimed they were solid Labour, nailed to the mast, so I humoured them. I wondered myself, just why was he so embarrassed about it, especially if he has a Lib Dem pamphlet up? Weirdo. Still, there's no point trying to explain Lib Dems...Noelinhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09432161217967943022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46280993067039261412007-04-22T00:08:00.000+01:002007-04-22T00:08:00.000+01:00pjYou're the man! Blood!pj<BR/><BR/>You're the man! Blood!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com