tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post1429795011997180353..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: How Very Illiberal of a LibDem MayorIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23201782425612408702009-10-30T16:33:54.392+00:002009-10-30T16:33:54.392+00:00He won't admit anything of the sort. Iain Dai...He won't admit anything of the sort. Iain Dail seems incapable of admitting he is wrong.<br /><br />Almost makes me feel sorry for Anne Atkins. But then she actually represents the majority view of Conservative Party members, so actually it's the people of Britain I feel sorry for.<br /><br />God help Britain when the Tories win next year. I'm glad to be overseas.Keith Elliottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46173967251594409832009-10-30T15:18:53.012+00:002009-10-30T15:18:53.012+00:00You people are as annoying as you are thick.
Try ...You people are as annoying as you are thick.<br /><br />Try doing a bit of research before jerking your knees in unison, eh?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/strategic-services/home-page-content/statement-about-harwoods-and-harebreaks-adventure-playground.en" rel="nofollow">http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/strategic-services/home-page-content/statement-about-harwoods-and-harebreaks-adventure-playground.en</a>Bad Fairground Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03311411855580929466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38584967330361422102009-10-30T14:45:34.605+00:002009-10-30T14:45:34.605+00:00Come on then Iain admit this is nonsense and your ...Come on then Iain admit this is nonsense and your too lazy to conduct a simple bit of resaerch using google.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69136891625604890042009-10-30T11:56:19.252+00:002009-10-30T11:56:19.252+00:00@ you NEVER know...
Brilliant! I did have a good ...@ you NEVER know...<br /><br />Brilliant! I did have a good laugh.Mike Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82364409953164492542009-10-30T09:22:24.833+00:002009-10-30T09:22:24.833+00:00Wow. Amazing how many people are blindly expressin...Wow. Amazing how many people are blindly expressing outrage after multiple other commenters have pointed out that the article isn't based in truth and have linked to a statement from Watford Council which conclusively refutes it.<br /><br />Nice farm you have here, Iain. You must make a fortune in wool and mutton.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09455089398371412282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1442967621619171662009-10-30T01:57:57.800+00:002009-10-30T01:57:57.800+00:00I actually read this Metro article with much relie...I actually read this Metro article with much relief. Finally someone with a sensible approach to the dangers our children face on a daily basis. However, whilst I welcome this idea, it surely does not go far enough in protecting children from the millions of potential abusers who lurk in our midst. We need to be thinking about the other factors in children's day to day lives too. <br /> <br />Many people routinely walk past children completely unchecked. They also look at them sometimes too and in the very worst cases say hello to them. This is extremely worrying. So just as we have cycle lanes in towns, shouldn't we also have child lanes? These lanes would have high enough barriers so that the children would remain invisible to abusers and they could also have an in-built up hill gradient so that the child maintains a healthy body mass index too! There is no reason why these lanes cannot be extended to the countryside as well. <br /> <br />But we must not be complacent. Alongside paedophiles, there are also murderers out there. Shouldn't we be thinking about sending council officials to town centres, the countryside and anywhere else where there are potential people around? Potential rapists must not be allowed to stroll anywhere where there are large numbers of women too. A hairdressers for example or The Body Shop should certainly think about having a team of council officals on standby. Wouldn't we all feel much happier if we knew our children, wives or girlfriends were being supervised at all times by the local council? <br /> <br />The sad truth today in our evil and depraved society is that people cannot be allowed to simply wander around where there are people. The tragic consequences do not bear thinking about and I for one am glad that Watford Council and the government have recognised this.you NEVER knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77171560088443037722009-10-29T22:26:05.771+00:002009-10-29T22:26:05.771+00:00To Canvas:
I have small children. It would be mad...To Canvas:<br /><br />I have small children. It would be madness for me not to be in that playground supervising them. I'm their mother. It's my job. What next? Should we employ professional nappy changers and table manners consultants?<br /><br />Bearing in mind that abuse of children occurs more often within the home - should we have government appointed au pairs until the children are sixteen?<br /><br />If I decide to get all militant and push my child on the swing, and another child falls over and is ignored,- would I be prosecuted for picking him or her up and speaking soothingly to them before a what? a person who has gone through minimal training and is probably more frightening to the child than someone who is obviously a mummy arrives?<br /><br />How does stranger danger when mummy and daddy are kept out work?Mrs Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13301098472217096123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87104503894458149652009-10-29T21:37:55.180+00:002009-10-29T21:37:55.180+00:00Where has the trust in people gone, this is a godl...Where has the trust in people gone, this is a godless and awful place to care for and nurture children. Once it was a happy and secure playground, at least it was when I grew up.<br />A sledgehammer to crack a nut, like all nu-lab legislation.<br />Politicians have much to answer for, after Soham, they listened to such 'enlightened organs' who were reponsible for much of the public hysteria. Like the Newsofthescrews, look where that has lead us to, this appalling mess.<br />The effing nanny state loonies are running the asylum. Paedophiles are found 'close' to the particular childs' environment. It is an unfortunate fact but nonetheless true, thank goodness the crime of paedophilia is still like it always was a relatively rare occurence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85514478814241823972009-10-29T21:21:04.437+00:002009-10-29T21:21:04.437+00:00Oh dear Iain, you really do need to stop taking ne...Oh dear Iain, you really do need to stop taking news (sic) from Mail Online - it brings new meaning to the term that people judge you from the company you keep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64623941871731610442009-10-29T20:32:37.313+00:002009-10-29T20:32:37.313+00:00I remember being dropped off at one of those parks...I remember being dropped off at one of those parks as a kid in the 70's, there were no parents hanging around back then either. While there is plenty to bash the Local Limp Dumps over in Watford this isn't one of them. Maybe the press would do better investigating the Watford Lib Dems and their association with the Moonies and their funding of a trip to Israel for Ms Thornhill.Jim_Watfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01059493638276925210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37172041570048741842009-10-29T19:46:56.047+00:002009-10-29T19:46:56.047+00:00It has just been announced that human life can now...It has just been announced that human life can now be created in a lab without the need for parents. In vitro humans! What next - in vitro soldiers, bred for purpose?<br />With this government's record, any outrage is possible.Barking Spiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968827142725464915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21566147300760490872009-10-29T19:25:06.026+00:002009-10-29T19:25:06.026+00:00Irfan Ahmed is on the ball again:
Iain Dale, the ...Irfan Ahmed is on the ball again:<br /><br />Iain Dale, the Tory party blogger and Parliamentary hopeful (if he ever finds a seat) has just had a rant at a Lib Dem mayor from Watford for making the following comments:<br /><br /> 'Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground.'<br /><br />My question to Iain Dale is what is wrong with the statement above? Nothing, the Mayor is right, we can not have strange people walking around children's playgrounds, and they need to be properly checked out whether you think it’s right or not.<br /><br />Iain, if you were a father then you would have argued a different point on this issue, I am not yet a father myself, well I hope I'm not, but the issue is, that you and others need to accept the argument that unknown people should not be trusted with children unless they have been checked, full stop. It's that simple.<br /><br />Iain has called the Mayor an “Illiberal”, how is it illiberal to set rules? Its people like that who shout illiberal when we ask for a limit on issues like the age to teach young children sexual education, the attacks on the Burka, etc.<br /><br />In my view it isn't illiberal to set rules and I am sorry if Iain doesn’t like it but this is a rule that needs to be set.no longer anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832752807489967541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6382360925795192342009-10-29T19:22:08.436+00:002009-10-29T19:22:08.436+00:00Why not ban parents from having children, then?
T...<i>Why not ban parents from having children, then?</i><br /><br />They're trying. Read up on recent developments in family law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85136143198318611302009-10-29T18:58:30.312+00:002009-10-29T18:58:30.312+00:00Forgot to add:
Wasn't Vanessa George "po...Forgot to add:<br /><br />Wasn't Vanessa George "police-checked"?Mike Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18078999575275694952009-10-29T18:54:50.094+00:002009-10-29T18:54:50.094+00:00If you think that's crazy, the Labour Mayor of...If you think that's crazy, the Labour Mayor of Newham has announced that he will be "saving" £70 Million over three years (for savings read re-allocating).<br /><br />He claims that £15 Million was "saved" last year (odd, because I would have thought he would have trumpeted that at the time), £23 Million will be "saved" this year and £31 Million for next year - a total of erm, £69 Million.<br /><br />He claims that he is doing this by spending money wisely and by making better decisions as there is now there is now “a leadership style that is performance and solution driven” - so what was he doing up till now?<br /><br />This is all well and good, but until late last year he kept banging on about how Newham is being diddled out of £58 Million a year by government because Newham hasn't been categorized as an Inner-London borough - money he said Newham desperately needed.<br /><br />Apart from the fact that, had he not re-examined the council's books because of the current economic climate, he's admitting that he would have wasted money at an increasing rate over the three years mentioned, I found it odd that the incremental rises are by £8 Million each year.<br /><br />I suspect that an initial reallocation of funds took place last year and a further £8 Million has been identified for this year with a similar figure for next.<br /><br />What I think the Mayor has done is add the second year's £8 Million to the first year's £15 Million to make £23 Million then added the third year's £8 Million to the £23 Million to make £31 Million. He then added the £15M to the £23M and the £31m totals to make £69M rounded up to £70 Million, where as the true figure re-allocated will be £31 Million over 3 years.<br /><br />NeLabour accounting... no wonder the economy's f8#ked up!Mike Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45052204015058135402009-10-29T17:35:35.853+00:002009-10-29T17:35:35.853+00:00If I was a parent dropping my child off at a child...If I was a parent dropping my child off at a children's activity, I would assume that the staff and/or volunteers running it would be CRB checked and have received the appropriate training. I wouldn't be to happy about someone unknown hanging around the session who was unknown to me, and unknown to the staff in charge. Just because they are a parent, does not mean they are certainly not a paedophile. I run children's activities, if parents want to stay at the session - great, but they need to go through the same process as staff and volunteers officially helping, and I think that is perfectly reasonable and that is what seems to be the case here, not as presented - parents being banned from playgrounds.TJUK2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/07930522155109201508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61357172295562681742009-10-29T17:16:57.526+00:002009-10-29T17:16:57.526+00:00Think you've got your wires crossed again, Mr ...Think you've got your wires crossed again, Mr Dail. Sorry Mr Dale. For a moment then I got you confused with the Daily Mail!<br /><br />They are not 'public playgrounds in parks' as you claim and a basic check fo the facts would have revealed that.<br /><br />'Tory, but not slavishly so,' is one of your tags. But it's just not true anymore. Like a great deal that is written on this blog.Keith Elliottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88932357590961811302009-10-29T17:05:21.456+00:002009-10-29T17:05:21.456+00:00Excellentt point! - "Why not ban parents from...Excellentt point! - <i>"Why not ban parents from having children, then? Wouldn't that save us all a lot of heartache worrying about paedophiles."</i><br /><br />It would also save us from having to issue the little bleeders with asbos etc., fund a huge education budget, and put up with seeing surveys that show they think Simon Cowell is a hero. <br /><br />Had you advocated this policy to the burghers of Bracknell, you would have been chosen!Cardinal Richelieu's molenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71636925306341159362009-10-29T15:33:33.848+00:002009-10-29T15:33:33.848+00:00@unsworth - I'm aware of all that is Andy Warh...@unsworth - I'm aware of all that is Andy Warhol, thanks. :)<br /><br />@wallenstein "back to cliched Shire Tories "Outraged of Tunbridge Wells" territory." Wally> You are absolutely correct - it's like panto. It's unreal. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35112571552955228852009-10-29T15:18:55.833+00:002009-10-29T15:18:55.833+00:00The LibDems aren't liberal nor are they democr...The LibDems aren't liberal nor are they democrats. This stuff should no longer surprise.Michael Heaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815028897338910665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63560973904240416082009-10-29T14:54:08.365+00:002009-10-29T14:54:08.365+00:00@ Canvas
Andy Warhol - one of the greatest intell...@ Canvas<br /><br />Andy Warhol - one of the greatest intellects of modern times - and conman <i>par excellence</i>.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53559174641440922772009-10-29T14:51:37.240+00:002009-10-29T14:51:37.240+00:00Who votes for these people. and of course the labo...Who votes for these people. and of course the labour government does nothing to stop all this foolisness.It just watches and does nothing.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13228880471564890002009-10-29T14:47:55.868+00:002009-10-29T14:47:55.868+00:00Do they allow this woman out on the streets these ...Do they allow this woman out on the streets these days? Is this all part of the Crazies In The Community scheme?<br /><br />I quote: "I now live in Oxhey, with husband of 13 years, and fellow Lib Dem councillor Iain Sharpe, and have two lovely children, who are now adults.". Now that says quite a lot, doesn't it? Is she living with two people? Who's this Sharpe fellow, or is this just piss-poor punctuation? I think we should be told. And the rest of her site is all the usual 'Me, Me, Me, aren't I bleeding wonderful' bollox.<br /><br />I always thought 'Facilitators' were quite a sinister group of people - this is mere confirmation.<br />Mind you, given the nature of the beast, I'd be quite happy to 'facilitate' the Delightful Dorothy's departure from this planet. <br /><br />Elton John has much to answer for.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26582844906505047262009-10-29T14:46:56.390+00:002009-10-29T14:46:56.390+00:00I am always amazed that those who preach tolerance...I am always amazed that those who preach tolerance and freedom are in fact the most intolerant and authoritarian people around.JMTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12430021754665569372009-10-29T14:44:02.474+00:002009-10-29T14:44:02.474+00:00Sal Brinton Watford is not going to be helped by t...Sal Brinton Watford is not going to be helped by this LOL!<br /><br /><br />People wonder why I dont like Liberal Democrats! They say one thing and do another - they are the most stalinist party ever! LDV is a brillent example, they ban all comments not supportive of the LD.<br /><br />If you look at Conservative Home they still publish troll comments because they know folk are intelllegent enough to dismiss it!<br /><br />Liberal Democrats are a pointless party - I hope they disband after the next election. The members of the LD can then go home mainly to Labour whilst the Voters will go Home to the Conservatives!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com