tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116955155037230234..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Nanny State Latest: Conversation to be Banned in Cars?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65824489828796124992010-11-12T11:29:36.560+00:002010-11-12T11:29:36.560+00:00I think hummer limo car more comfortable for all p...I think hummer limo car more comfortable for all people.<br /><a href="http://www.capitallimousine.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">limo hire London</a>Forever Livinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914313340389837021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169655552318983832007-01-24T16:19:00.000+00:002007-01-24T16:19:00.000+00:00Just how is this new law to be enforced without di...Just how is this new law to be enforced without discriminating against millions of hearing aid users who drive, like me?<BR/><BR/>There is no means of distinguishing between most hearing aids and hands free phones. <BR/><BR/>Wuld all of us who are very deaf or hearing impaired be regularly pulled over by the police or issued with unjust fines by Blair's army of camera watchers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169635379454409282007-01-24T10:42:00.000+00:002007-01-24T10:42:00.000+00:00I remember when the Tories were the party of law a...I remember when the Tories were the party of law and order. Now, as can be seen from the many bovver boy comments on here, they are the party of the yob. Cameron's "hug a hoodie" policy has had more results than even he could have dreamed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169634969227224322007-01-24T10:36:00.000+00:002007-01-24T10:36:00.000+00:00I was in London a few weeks ago. Twat on mobile in...I was in London a few weeks ago. Twat on mobile in overpowered BMW. Hands free, yammering away. Slams in front of me, major cut-up. Horns, lights, shouting, no response. Still hooked on phone call. Then crosses pedestrian crossing in front of me with people on it. Shouting, raising of fists. Later on, I pull alongside champion git. "Did you notice the pedestrian crossing?" I politely enquire. Blank look. Moronic grin. Sorry, can't talk now, another call to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169634839901293652007-01-24T10:33:00.000+00:002007-01-24T10:33:00.000+00:00It isnt' safety faschism. I've had terrible situat...It isnt' safety faschism. I've had terrible situations on the roads with other drivers talking on the phone. When behind someone who is on the phone now I literally get an extra adrenelin rush which my brain gives me to have to deal with the idiot. It really makes a huge difference to people's driving and to be honest this kind of "me and my stupid driving behaviour first" behaviour is what makes the roads so unbearable now. A professional driver. The Tories chasing after a few cheap votes on this won't make it better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169634697260472552007-01-24T10:31:00.000+00:002007-01-24T10:31:00.000+00:00There is plenty of good evidence that drivers are ...There is plenty of good evidence that drivers are much more distracted by phone calls, hands-free or otherwise than by other types of distraction such as radio, passenger conversation, etc. The reason is that when driving normally, concentration can be applied to the road and the distraction at will. When on the phone, due to "politeness" and "normal phone culture" there is a need to remain focused on the caller and the act of switching attention back to the road done normally effortlessly by a driver is much more constrained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169624317326181642007-01-24T07:38:00.000+00:002007-01-24T07:38:00.000+00:00Women should be banned from applying make-up in ca...Women should be banned from applying make-up in cars - there is only one mirror in a car for such ctivities and it doesn't have steering wheel or ials anywhere nearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169603885596182252007-01-24T01:58:00.000+00:002007-01-24T01:58:00.000+00:00These have become very difficult times for a Briti...These have become very difficult times for a British working class right wing libertarian. Its sometimes hard not to lose the will to live. Maybe its better to just live somewhere else?<BR/><BR/>Im going to Cuba for 10 days next week just to reasure myself things have not got as bad as they often seem in the "United" Kingdom. But I am a little concerned that I might find I feel more free in the socialist republic of Cuba then here. <BR/><BR/>Here is hopeing the old bastard kicks it while I am there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169602212611573082007-01-24T01:30:00.000+00:002007-01-24T01:30:00.000+00:00How about a bit of clever thinking that might actu...How about a bit of clever thinking that might actually create better more skillfull and therefore safer drivers?<BR/><BR/>Instead of banning hands free mobile phones they should be part of the driving test. So should driving with meatloaf full vol. All aspects of a drivers ability to concentrate under extra ordinary and extream conditions can and should be tested. Drivers should also be tested on the track to drive well at 100 miles per hour at least. All retested every 10 years.<BR/><BR/>We still have a driving test that does not even include motorway driving or night driving.<BR/><BR/>How about the death penalty for for driving over 25 MPH ? It would be an excellent deterent, they will never do it again, and my 99 year old grandmother can get back on the road. Blind as a bat and deaf as a post.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps I should not give the bastards any idears?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169600366713858552007-01-24T00:59:00.000+00:002007-01-24T00:59:00.000+00:00kris,I'm new here.It's slagfest-anon to me. I exp...kris,<BR/>I'm new here.<BR/><BR/>It's slagfest-anon to me. I express my opinions, from the disenchanted liver that is mine.<BR/><BR/>I write as I see things and I've seen things this way for some time. Not had a sounding board before, and now ever so grateful to the big ID who plays host.<BR/><BR/>I don't agree with all he says but that's the purpose of political debate, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Thanks Iain, for the forum here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169599642425404492007-01-24T00:47:00.000+00:002007-01-24T00:47:00.000+00:00Iain, I think you an some of your readers have iss...Iain, I think you an some of your readers have issues with the police.<BR/><BR/>I say that as the nature and tone of the majority of responses remind me of the slag-fest you all indulged in after the trama of the Met not attending 18 Doughty Street to take your statement about you smashed car windows.<BR/><BR/>That was an ordeal given Holborn police station is virtually across the street from Doughty Street.<BR/><BR/>Moan, moan, moan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169598005587567302007-01-24T00:20:00.000+00:002007-01-24T00:20:00.000+00:00Why don't they go the whole hog? They could ban sm...Why don't they go the whole hog? They could ban smoking while driving too while they are at it. (Iain)<BR/><BR/>They would not dare to antagonise the 14 million of us who smoke any more than they already have done with their refusal to allow smoking areas in pubs. <BR/><BR/>14 million smokers is one mighty big voting block. We can wipe out nulab at the next election if we choose to do so.<BR/><BR/>Auntie 'FloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169597128117102362007-01-24T00:05:00.000+00:002007-01-24T00:05:00.000+00:00Anonymous said... How would it be enforced ,would ...Anonymous said... <BR/>How would it be enforced ,would there be a big red light on your car when you transmit ,you lyin b@@@@@d copper I was just singin to myself <BR/><BR/>Ah, that's the aspect of it that nulab neglected to mention.<BR/><BR/>Now that well in excess of half a million people have signed the protest petition against vehicle tracking on Blair's website http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/ the b@@@@@@s have decided to track us instead. But don't fret, apparently the op' to insert the chip behind our ears is relatively painless....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169593853692465762007-01-23T23:10:00.000+00:002007-01-23T23:10:00.000+00:00Wasn't some woman prosecuted in the recent past fo...Wasn't some woman prosecuted in the recent past for eating an apple whilst driving? <BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be more useful if the police chased up drivers without insurance?<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be nice if the Govt cleared up the confusion about crossing red lights if there's an emergency vehicle behind you?<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't if be lovely if Blair went to jail?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169593600393306582007-01-23T23:06:00.000+00:002007-01-23T23:06:00.000+00:00Another misdemeanour, another incidence caught on ...Another misdemeanour, another incidence caught on CCTV.<BR/><BR/>Easy money/easy revenue for the gov's cameras.<BR/><BR/>Dangerous driving still exists though! TAKE NOTE!<BR/><BR/>Every time I venture out with ball of foot on the pedal I have a reality awakening.<BR/><BR/>It's now been long enough and with enough experience, that I know the problem: regardless of the legalities, no one is there to police it!<BR/><BR/>Cameras are easy time revenue generation; real bad driving is not!<BR/><BR/>I've avoided the swing of a vehicle into my lane on the last two outings. One was on his mobile; one was in a heated debate with his front seat passenger. Both needed more points than a 80mph loving speedo!<BR/><BR/>God, give me strength, I prefer the train!<BR/><BR/>What's the point of law of there's no one to police them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169588713883616712007-01-23T21:45:00.000+00:002007-01-23T21:45:00.000+00:00Quite a few posters seem to think this is a direct...Quite a few posters seem to think this is a direct by-product of Blair. I don't and here's why.<BR/><BR/>This kind of safety fascist approach existed before Blair came to power and is founded not necessarily in the laws themselves, but in the interpretation of road transport rules and regulations by civil servants in Whitehall and highway officers within county councils.<BR/><BR/>They have been quietly and religiously imposing their own agenda - an agenda often formed through discussion papers and conferences you and I have never heard of - on top of Parliament's own ludicrous nannyisms.<BR/><BR/>The results you see before you: the infestation of roads and pavements with overwhelming, control-oriented signage (which Iain blogged about the other day) and the transformation of our road system from a simple ( if over-crowded) route network into a baffling abomination.<BR/><BR/>It's easy to ridicule responses like mine as those of a Meldrew, but these unelected nannies have running riot on the quiet for years, driving an agenda informed by a belief that (to paraphrase Orwell) four wheels bad, two buses good. And anyone who does use four wheels really shouldn't be thinking for themselves now, should they?<BR/><BR/>It is the despatching of exactly these sorts of creeping administrative madnesses that Cameron MUST make part of his agenda.MorrisOxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11952846056079111473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169588344582475032007-01-23T21:39:00.000+00:002007-01-23T21:39:00.000+00:00Phillipa 1:34This "Peter Hitchens" has never objec...Phillipa 1:34<BR/>This "Peter Hitchens" has never objected to loose knicker elastic in his life . Maybe once I get to know and like them ,and am in a relationship ,then I get drunk and throw their pasts in their faces and call them whores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169585371123135212007-01-23T20:49:00.000+00:002007-01-23T20:49:00.000+00:00Maybe there ought to be some type of exception to ...Maybe there ought to be some type of exception to this hands free law. Possibly we could get a licence from Gordon (at a huge cost of course), or even plant a couple of trees somewhere. Whatever the government decide, you can bet your life that it's got sod all to do with safety. The trouble is, as soon as the word saftey is mentioned, there's no defence for normally rational people, basically we just exsist these days, to be fleeced.<BR/><BR/>Most of these idiots who are setting the law have no need to ever get behind a wheel, their bloody chauffeurs do it for them.<BR/><BR/>I still, cannot believe, how so many people in this country were so gullible, as to be taken in by this moronic Government. People out htere still support them. Then again one only has to see Big Brother to understand why.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for this Iain, but these type of stories compel me to have a rant now and again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169584678208633782007-01-23T20:37:00.000+00:002007-01-23T20:37:00.000+00:00Actually, banning smoking when driving does make m...Actually, banning smoking when driving does make mroe sense than banning people talking. That is why some insurance companies ask if you smoke. It raises your premium as smokers are more at risk of having an accident.<BR/><BR/>I'm personally advocatin gbanning either of them before people start attacking me as a Lib Dem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169583216296864102007-01-23T20:13:00.000+00:002007-01-23T20:13:00.000+00:00'12:32pm Bob Piper "Are you telling me it's not al...'<BR/>12:32pm Bob Piper "Are you telling me it's not already illegal to listen to Meat Loaf in the car? Well it bloody well ought to be"<BR/><BR/>We must congratulate our Friend Bob on expressing such a sensible point of view - a rare occasion of agreement between us<BR/><BR/>GEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169579885000318212007-01-23T19:18:00.000+00:002007-01-23T19:18:00.000+00:00Surely this is what a whole 22% of the electorate ...Surely this is what a whole 22% of the electorate voted for in 2005?<BR/><BR/>Just goes to show that our democracy is a sham and that we've let the lunatics take over the asylum through the back door.uk-eventshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620710031075091084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169579768613114762007-01-23T19:16:00.000+00:002007-01-23T19:16:00.000+00:00I got distracted the other day.I'd just heard over...I got distracted the other day.<BR/><BR/>I'd just heard over the car radio some lunatic proposal to increase revenue, sorry improve road safety, by fining drivers using hands-free phones.<BR/><BR/>I was so angry I nearly drove into a tree.MorrisOxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11952846056079111473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169578041407328262007-01-23T18:47:00.000+00:002007-01-23T18:47:00.000+00:00Iain I'm glad to see that you truly appreciate the...Iain I'm glad to see that you truly appreciate the genuine agenda of the viciously anti car lunatics now in control of what passes for transport policy and policing in the ever more fascistic and oppressive Bliarland, .... ... .. errr I mean Britain, in which we exist. I wouldn't call it living since to actually live requires freedom and personal privacy and we don't really have either of those anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169577344355278792007-01-23T18:35:00.000+00:002007-01-23T18:35:00.000+00:00Please Jesus, tell me it ain't true: you don't REA...Please Jesus, tell me it ain't true: you don't REALLY listen to "Bat out of Hell" and "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" whilst you are driving?!<BR/><BR/>All whilst moderating comments on your blackberry?!<BR/><BR/>And that's just YOU! I shudder to think of what Newmania gets up to behind the wheel!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169575674379734732007-01-23T18:07:00.000+00:002007-01-23T18:07:00.000+00:00Anon 2:17 - unlike newmania I can't disagree with ...Anon 2:17 - unlike newmania I can't disagree with you at all. <BR/><BR/>The point as I see it is this: we already have a law that would cover this - driving without due care and attention. But Labour has brought in how many laws?? It's changing Britain from being free to do anything unless expressly forbidden, to being free to do nothing unless expressly allowed. I think we are moving more towards an authoritarian regime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com