tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116454251991826120..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: How to Destroy Jobs in 35 Hour Easy LessonsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164911937803487452006-11-30T18:38:00.000+00:002006-11-30T18:38:00.000+00:00What? They want English people to actually WORK as...What? They want English people to actually WORK as much as 35 hours a week. That will not win any votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164830002353530432006-11-29T19:53:00.000+00:002006-11-29T19:53:00.000+00:00Isn't John Selwyn Gummer involved with the Church ...Isn't John Selwyn Gummer involved with the Church of England ? Perhaps it may explain why they are trying to prop up their numbers by merging with the Church of Roam and the Moslems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164761458010696682006-11-29T00:50:00.000+00:002006-11-29T00:50:00.000+00:00My (less than one year-old) membership card is eve...My (less than one year-old) membership card is ever closer to being posted back to Dave, C/O the Socialist Worker's Conservative Party.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the need to throw ideas around and be experimental when researching and developing policy, but there are many things that should not need to be entertained, based on principle.Machiavelli's Understudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18150445761766304667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164743629411786082006-11-28T19:53:00.000+00:002006-11-28T19:53:00.000+00:00Tongue firmly in cheek, dear Verity.Tongue firmly in cheek, dear Verity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164679942003607342006-11-28T02:12:00.000+00:002006-11-28T02:12:00.000+00:00Would it destroy jobs like the minimum wage was su...Would it destroy jobs like the minimum wage was supposed to?<BR/><BR/>That also turned out to be a lot of hysteria and hot air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164665374798965032006-11-27T22:09:00.000+00:002006-11-27T22:09:00.000+00:00Gummer, who the hell do you think you are to tell ...Gummer, who the hell do you think you are to tell me how many hours I can work?<BR/><BR/>Get a life and leave mine alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164655792855026152006-11-27T19:29:00.000+00:002006-11-27T19:29:00.000+00:00I'm more appalled at the way Osborne has failed to...I'm more appalled at the way Osborne has failed to get a hit on Brown. The man is failed Chancellor walking but there appear to be no focus on exposing how Brown's competence is a charade.<BR/><BR/>He's <A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/15/nbrown15.xml" REL="nofollow">lost £100 billion in pension funds</A> but where's the constant reminders from Osborne?<BR/><BR/>We've had <A HREF="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1523504" REL="nofollow">£70 billion wasted on consultancy and failed IT projects</A> yet no constant reminders from Osborne thrown at Brown to get this message through the media mire.<BR/><BR/>And he <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4695823.stm" REL="nofollow">changed his Golden Rule</A> so he could borrow more yet zippo from Osbourne.<BR/><BR/>The debt campaign has been embarrassing and should be one pf the main economic focuses. Not only has Brown sold the future he's been allowed to present an image of economic paradise so we now have out of control consumer debt.<BR/><BR/>We should be focusing on every debt and bankruptcy report that comes out to expose how the economy is in real danger of going boobs up because Brown has built up such a debt mountain.<BR/><BR/>We should be jumping on every company that goes under because of debt and the jobs lost.<BR/><BR/>If Osborne doesn't get his acft together on this he should be moved for someone who knows what the job of an opposition Chancellor is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164655115956174872006-11-27T19:18:00.000+00:002006-11-27T19:18:00.000+00:00A 35 hour week does not mean we have to close ever...A 35 hour week does not mean we have to close everything down at lunch time. God some of the people who put posts on here need to live in the real world. Not everyone does jobs they like - I bet most of you lot would be crying if you did a proper days work. Not some cushy number in the media or working for an MP or political party or lobbyist.<BR/><BR/>Nowonder the tories have been in such straights since they first went into opposition - talk about out of touch. You try living on it - bet you change your mind. Portillo accepted the minuim wage as shadow chancellour.<BR/><BR/>I have been a tory since a young age but i tell you what the dogmatic side of the party do not know how lucky they are - usually with wealthy mummy + Daddy. 35 hour week does not have to be compulsarly implemented but it is a good aspiration. You are pretty ileberal if you think everyone should enjoy doing 60 hours work a week. There is more to life than work and indeed one could argue that this not only enables individualism to flourish but increases the diversefication of business.<BR/><BR/>To reiterate Insurance companies & banks are the most effiecient enterprises in the UK and they quite often work on a 35 hour week principle. Only if you have had a real job in such an enterprise will you know this. I'd rather have a media job etc anyday as working 60 hours a week in that is much easier believe me i have done both- shove that in your pipe - dogmatic ones!!!<BR/><BR/>Andrew JonesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164595106958201792006-11-27T02:38:00.000+00:002006-11-27T02:38:00.000+00:00Proud To Be Anonymous - the funniest blog name eve...Proud To Be Anonymous - the funniest blog name ever.<BR/><BR/><I>I do hope the struggle to say what he really thinks doesn't send him mad.</I> <BR/><BR/>Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164581936250143012006-11-26T22:58:00.000+00:002006-11-26T22:58:00.000+00:00Astonishing. Our flexible working, non-prescripti...Astonishing. Our flexible working, non-prescriptive labour laws (and that is only relative to the rest of the EU) are one of the main reasons for the success of our economy. <BR/><BR/>Looking through who is on the quality of life commission, I wonder if they have ever tried making money in France. <BR/>I work for a multi-national who has removed all its "pan-European" jobs from France and you can see others trying to move their HQ elsewhere, close down factories, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164575853257242352006-11-26T21:17:00.000+00:002006-11-26T21:17:00.000+00:00The truly wonderful thing is that the Greeks were ...The truly wonderful thing is that the Greeks were right. Nemesis will attend upon Tosser Dave, some time next year when a ragbag of policy commissions such as Gummer's will report. <BR/><BR/>Our Dave will then be forced to define his policies. I do hope the struggle to say what he really thinks doesn't send him mad. The consequences of hubris can be painful to behold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164573825556784812006-11-26T20:43:00.000+00:002006-11-26T20:43:00.000+00:00Lisa, Doom is all powerful and needs little human ...Lisa, Doom is all powerful and needs little human help to justify his reasoning.<BR/><BR/>But to offer evidence is normally the case.<BR/><BR/>Observer/Business/Front page/Sarkozy V's Royale/35hr week/Presidential candidate/agenda for unemployment.<BR/><BR/>Doom has spoken.Dr.Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693690337088689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164572686391550382006-11-26T20:24:00.000+00:002006-11-26T20:24:00.000+00:00Ask John Gummer if he works a 35 hour week. If not...Ask John Gummer if he works a 35 hour week. If not why should he force it onton anyone else?Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164571531510424742006-11-26T20:05:00.000+00:002006-11-26T20:05:00.000+00:00As a policy (floating or real) this is the economi...As a policy (floating or real) this is the economic equivalent of feeding a burger to your daughter on TV at the height of the BSE crisis. Another shot in the foot. I did wonder what on earth Crazy Dave was doing when he appointed the serial failures of Conservativism to various policy task farces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164570574585636292006-11-26T19:49:00.000+00:002006-11-26T19:49:00.000+00:00Doom -- you must be joking when you say that Frenc...Doom -- you must be joking when you say that French workers are more productive than the USA workers, right??<BR/><BR/>I lived and worked in the UK for 8 years and I now live back in the U.S. -- people are encouraged to work more here by fufilling quotas, overtime pay, etc. Our unemployment rate is around 4 percent, the lowest in 15 years! We have more millionaire business owners than ever before. <BR/><BR/>I hate when people state something about the USA when they know absolutely nothing about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164564431631445192006-11-26T18:07:00.000+00:002006-11-26T18:07:00.000+00:00Billy - work whatever hours you want. Retire when...Billy - work whatever hours you want. Retire whenever you want. The problem comes when the government legislates you to stop you from working more.<BR/><BR/>Steve - the idea that we can improve productivity by hampering labour market flexibility is ludicrous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164564299014271252006-11-26T18:04:00.000+00:002006-11-26T18:04:00.000+00:00I think we need to hear a convincing case for a pi...I think we need to hear a convincing case for a pilot working a 60 hour week.<BR/><BR/>Teachers,Doctors, Surgeons, Air traffic controllers,and others in higher resposible positions are also welcome.<BR/><BR/>The right to work 48 Hours is there. 60 Hours keeps people unemployed of which a 60 hour weeker has little regard, I'm sure.<BR/>Rich bosses like this ilk.<BR/><BR/>french 35 Hour weekers are more productive than the good 'ol US of A.<BR/><BR/>Doom.Dr.Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693690337088689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164563887982530992006-11-26T17:58:00.000+00:002006-11-26T17:58:00.000+00:00I've never forgotten that odious, sanctimonious cl...I've never forgotten that odious, sanctimonious clown Gummer as Environment Minister, force-feeding his tiny daughter with a burger on TV to make some self-serving point or other about the safety of British beef. Politicians really will stop at nothing to curry favour and grab headlines. <BR/><BR/>This is exactly the sort of self-righteous drivel Tosser Gummer (who now rakes it in from a whole string of right-on "environmental" companies) could be expected to come up with. I took voluntary redundancy and am now a self-employed IT specialist. I will work when the hell I want to and for however many hours I want to. If John Gummer doesn't like it he can go stuff a Double Whopper where the sun don't shine. <BR/><BR/>Sorry for the rant. This makes me so very angry. I used to be a Tory. If this lot think I'm voting for them next time...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164562195483819232006-11-26T17:29:00.000+00:002006-11-26T17:29:00.000+00:00Oh calm down. Gummer has said he is going to look...Oh calm down. Gummer has said he is going to look into it. I'm just as curious to know why Germany and France have much higher productivity despite worker fewer hours than we do. We need to find the answer to that, and propose changes if necessary. I'm glad someone is looking that the issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164560279323912832006-11-26T16:57:00.000+00:002006-11-26T16:57:00.000+00:00Andrew Jones - Could you let us know what your fir...Andrew Jones - Could you let us know what your first language is?<BR/><BR/>Lagwolf - True words spoken in jest!<BR/><BR/>Re the 35 hours week - the French enjoy having rules. That way, they don't have to show initiative.<BR/><BR/>When I lived in the Languedoc, in the main square of the town, at the stroke of 12 noon, as though flicked by a common hand, every grill descended over the shop doors and windows. Two minutes later, you had the whole street to yourself to park in.<BR/><BR/>They drifted back around 2 - 2:15. Again, at the first stroke of five, down came down all the grills in unison, and two minutes after the last stroke of the hour, lights were out in the shops and offices and jammed parking lots were emptying. No one put one extra minute - one extra second - into their work. I have never known such eagle-eyed,fanatical clockwatchers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164557613505762592006-11-26T16:13:00.000+00:002006-11-26T16:13:00.000+00:00I started full time work in 1964 and have always i...I started full time work in 1964 and have always imagined that working hours would decrease and retirement come earlier for all working people.<BR/>I cannot believe that we are accepting the line that working to 68 and not trying to shorten the working week are 'good' things.<BR/>This by MP's that rarely do 35 hours a week, have unbelievably long holidays, can retire earlier than most, and have misspent the nation's pension pot in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164557509656185012006-11-26T16:11:00.000+00:002006-11-26T16:11:00.000+00:00Calm down,are you another tory tosser.A 35 hour we...Calm down,are you another tory tosser.A 35 hour week - no way can I accept this as a Consevative voter.<BR/>I am going to vote for UKIP now and I hope they break up the union as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164556515235717902006-11-26T15:55:00.000+00:002006-11-26T15:55:00.000+00:00CALM DOWN CALM DOWN - these groups are think tanks...CALM DOWN CALM DOWN - these groups are think tanks that chuck out ideas and suggestions. Every party bounces around such ideas - if it can start an open and honest debate - GOOD! At least its showing we are taking all ideas and opinions into consideration before hammering out policy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164554803523977872006-11-26T15:26:00.000+00:002006-11-26T15:26:00.000+00:00Beware of such proclamations as their mere existen...Beware of such proclamations as their mere existence in opinion is only part of David Cameron's policy strategy of shock and awe.<BR/>They make us all wake up,criticise and shout and enable the novo- conservative party to be noticed into the depths of all communication with a potential electorate.<BR/>It is this centre ground,liberal and mind bending political arena which is stretching the very soul of traditional conservatism.<BR/>It is a mood change before the reality of those appealing policies are proclaimed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1164552369726186312006-11-26T14:46:00.000+00:002006-11-26T14:46:00.000+00:00The future's bright the future's purple.The future's bright the future's purple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com