tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116073046316922166..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Examples of Blair's Lies: No 94Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160989905000331272006-10-16T10:11:00.000+01:002006-10-16T10:11:00.000+01:00Not in BBC news broadcasts when referring to the C...Not in BBC news broadcasts when referring to the Conservative Party.Which was my point when conjoined with the Labour/New (improved) Labour mutually reinforcing terms in reference to brands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160963076987078742006-10-16T02:44:00.000+01:002006-10-16T02:44:00.000+01:00paul burgin - We will never know. But I would be ...paul burgin - We will never know. But I would be unhappy if I thought HM had not been distressed by the previous 10 years of "governance" of Britain.<BR/><BR/>I firmly believe that Sir Richard was not suddenly - in a burst of amiability with the press that has not illustrated his career heretofore, speaking out of turn at this particular moment.<BR/><BR/>I think blair's finished. I honestly think this was a very British coup. Blair has done little wees on the floor all over his office, agreeing with everything our General said. He is a submissive puppy. He will go.<BR/><BR/>Until he goes, believe me, he will not have any new programmes or "initiatives with which I can be personally associated". History. Blair's dead meat.<BR/><BR/>Too bad. I'd have preferred something more toe-curling. But I think he's gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160942531274167322006-10-15T21:02:00.000+01:002006-10-15T21:02:00.000+01:00Schoolboy error - the term Tory is of Irish 19 th ...Schoolboy error - the term Tory is of Irish 19 th century origin; it is derogatory, it means 'bog bandit' and has been in use for ever such a long time, well before the mid 90s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160938018137191632006-10-15T19:46:00.000+01:002006-10-15T19:46:00.000+01:00I agree with Verity about the Queen which is why I...I agree with Verity about the Queen which is why I questioned it!Paul Burginhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06718135185726733792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160901675775913172006-10-15T09:41:00.000+01:002006-10-15T09:41:00.000+01:00As I have pointed out before - go and look in the ...As I have pointed out before - go and look in the mirror at the dark lines around the rim of your iris. <BR/><BR/>Then look at Tony Blair's eyes. You will see his eyes look watery - like an old mans eyes. <BR/><BR/>It's a classic symptom that experienced cardiologists look for. <BR/><BR/>He has been suffering from a heart problem for at least 10 years. <BR/><BR/>Forget obesity I would say he has hardening of the arteries. My considered opinion is that he will be lucky to get past his 70th birthday and will probably die from a massive stroke after a pain in the calf or thigh for several days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160861808545749992006-10-14T22:36:00.000+01:002006-10-14T22:36:00.000+01:00Bob Piper said...I don't recall Thatcher ever comi...Bob Piper said...<BR/>I don't recall Thatcher ever coming clean about her mental instability when she was running (sorrry, ruining) the country.<BR/><BR/>5:50 PM<BR/><BR/>I remember her! Wasn't she a Prime Minister who won a war without killing a scientist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160850531385268422006-10-14T19:28:00.000+01:002006-10-14T19:28:00.000+01:00hm stanley - Yes, I didn't think it was funny the ...hm stanley - Yes, I didn't think it was funny the first time I read it, several years ago, I believe, and I don't credit it. The Queen does not talk so freely and I do not think Prince Philip would pass on something so political and negative about the sitting prime minister's wife. It would be nice if she had indeed said it, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160846502306531202006-10-14T18:21:00.000+01:002006-10-14T18:21:00.000+01:00"Do you really think a woman of 80 would have made..."Do you really think a woman of 80 would have made a comment about a woman of 50-ish's (30 years younger, just to spell it out) "creaky knees"? That is just so silly."<BR/><BR/>Verity:<BR/><BR/>I think you've had a sense of humor bypass on this one. FYI, the comment was not about Cherie's knees or her age, but a mockery of Cherie's refusal to curtsy to HM. HM reportedly joked...and from what we hear, HM has a great sense of humor...that she hears Cherie's knees creak whenever HM enters the room as Cherie steels her knees no to curtsy. I believe it was reported by Giles Brandreth...who is supposed to have uncomon access, if not to HM, to Prince Phillip.HM Stanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14229047652893990522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160836152137471302006-10-14T15:29:00.000+01:002006-10-14T15:29:00.000+01:00The BBC has an editorial policy that sometimes ind...The BBC has an editorial policy that sometimes indulges in social engineering.See substitution of the phrase 'lone parent' for the phrase (then) in common everyday use 'single parent'.I read in Frederic Forsythe's Express column that the Wilson report had aknowledged there was an influx of leftward leaning journalists into the BBC in the build up to the 1997 election.I first heard the use of 'Tory' to describe the Conservative Party in a BBC radio news report in (mid)1996.This then migrated to television news reports with (to my recollection)increasing frequency approaching the '97 election.We had Labour and New (improved) Labour.We had Conservative and Tory.The Labour terms are mutually reinforcing in brand terms.The Conservative terms are not.You could claim that Tory had become a term of abuse to a substantial proportion of the population by that time.I've seen many news reports since that time onwards when Conservative and Tory were used interchangeably and in the same report.No commercial organisation would permit such de-branding.If media was impartial they wouldn't either.You can use 'Labour' when reporting stories emphasising 'traditional socialist values'.You can use 'New Labour' when reporting on the party's vision for the future.Using both in the same report is fine as they mutually reinforce.'Aunty Beeb' is a tremendous anchor for the country as a whole.Where the establishment meets the people.If you can put your foot in that door you're in the driving seat.If it was a scheme.It worked.It won't be possible to prove it so the only thing is to fix it.Broaden the means of discourse.Partial parties (openly declaring that they are so)clamouring for attention/votes allowing us to judge on their best case.Politics has to form and grow in an organic way or all of us are poorly served.Remember when the Conservatives accused Blair of lying about Iraq before the last election.The media were up in arms.You can't say that without absolute proof.The trouble is these things are done by word of mouth.There won't be any memos/emails etc.If there are enough people on the internet mocking the absurdity of it,it seeps into the general consciousness and colours people's opinions.People talking to people is the way to go and Doughty street,the Conservative/Labour/Lib Dem and the rest bloggers and more to come will enfranchise all of us to talk and thereby become engaged and enable us together to thrash out the best way forward for all of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160830695560152562006-10-14T13:58:00.000+01:002006-10-14T13:58:00.000+01:00As far as I can see this shower of liars, chancers...As far as I can see this shower of liars, chancers and no-hopers have succeeded in staying in power through the use of 4 key strategies:<BR/>1. Make sure that there is such an abundance of sleaze that no one issue will stay in the headlines for more than 2 days and so will never be properly followed up.<BR/>2. Bribe the non working class with visible (apparent) benefits whilst introducing massive hidden taxes.<BR/>3. Get the fat fool to introduce postal voting and then save the voters the trouble of filling the forms in for themselves.<BR/>4. Import the dregs of the world population and ensure their allegiance to nulab by plying them with unearned benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160829011119999822006-10-14T13:30:00.000+01:002006-10-14T13:30:00.000+01:00Bugger conjugating Caplin. How do you decline Blai...Bugger conjugating Caplin. How do you decline Blair?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160827967065610712006-10-14T13:12:00.000+01:002006-10-14T13:12:00.000+01:00Schoolboy Error - Interesting. And correct.I thi...Schoolboy Error - Interesting. And correct.<BR/><BR/>I think this Labour government has dynamited the myth of the brave, free, independent British press. They were cowering in corners like a frightened puppy before Field Marshall Alastair Campbell. I have never seen an analysis of how he managed to bully and silence them, but I would like to. He was just one man, but all the papers, from The Thunderer and The Torygraph to the cheeky red tops, were scared to death of Campbell. Could he really have had something on every single editor on Fleet Street?<BR/><BR/>You imply that Campbell is a ruthless schemer, which indeed he is, but how did one man manage to control the entire British press? <BR/>Not one of them dared to write anything negative about Blair. They couldn't all have liked him, and I would think several of them would have absolutely despised him. Yet he controlled them all. How?<BR/><BR/>They were even afraid to publish anything negative about Elena Ceaucescu Blair, who is a case study in her own right.<BR/><BR/>It really is only during this past year or 18 months that they've been running negative stories and negative opinions about tony blair and his fat, greedy, crude wife. And even then, I think it was led by the bloggers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160821296964842152006-10-14T11:21:00.000+01:002006-10-14T11:21:00.000+01:00I don't remember a single negative or even questio...I don't remember a single negative or even questioning story about Blair for the first three years of his Premiership.When we had the Ecclestone affair we had 'Trust me,I'm a pretty straight typo of a guy (only two letters transposed)'.The media then allowed Labour a fresh start.Any transgressions (and they're all big enough to have sunk a Conservative government)and Labour says 'ok,we made a mistake,we'll start afresh' and the media LET them.It's a pity the Labour government was so slow in forcing BT to upgrade the exchanges so allowing opposition to migrate to the internet.Criminal in competitiveness terms but usefull for maintaining media control.It's going to take dynamite to get rid of this lot but the prize is a media apparatus so diverse that ruthless schemers who believe that the ends justify the means can no longer successfully attack it.ie no more pretence of a laughable impartiality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160820760319424642006-10-14T11:12:00.000+01:002006-10-14T11:12:00.000+01:00"I've got a hearty dick" which is of course why th..."I've got a hearty dick" <BR/>which is of course why the hips don't lie.<BR/><BR/>PS How do you conjugate the cockney verb 'caplin'?<BR/><BR/>I capul<BR/>You capul<BR/>We capul<BR/>We came as a capul<BR/>RU caplin?<BR/>I need a Chaplin<BR/>You got any Charlie?<BR/>Ask Peter. Or maybe George's mate Dave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160813860559342552006-10-14T09:17:00.000+01:002006-10-14T09:17:00.000+01:00Are you sure about Blair mentioning this to the Qu...Are you sure about Blair mentioning this to the Queen as in Elizabeth 2? Two much more likely explanations are that he mentioned it to Cherie, who thinks she's the queen, or to one of his aquaintances who happens to be a queen. Sort of "leave me alone big gob I've got a dicky heart" or "be gentle big boy I've got a hearty dick"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160809715885971382006-10-14T08:08:00.000+01:002006-10-14T08:08:00.000+01:00Well it's weight that put's the strain on knees (i...Well it's weight that put's the strain on knees (if you're not into Levinskyesque love(sic) life).<BR/><BR/>And with Cherie the hips (unlike the hubbie) don't lie!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160808271061369392006-10-14T07:44:00.000+01:002006-10-14T07:44:00.000+01:00I remember once being present during the interview...I remember once being present during the interviewing of a woman who was an accomplished inveterate liar. Hardly anything she said was the truth. That she was psychologically disturbed was in no doubt, but she was intelligent and articulate. When asked about her behaviour she claimed that at the actual time of uttering a lie she believed it to be the truth. It was only later that she realised the truth about herself, but then of course she was telling more lies to cover up the first! When this eventually came to a head, she had lost all sense of reality. She did, in fact lose everything including her family and her freedom!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160783298017413232006-10-14T00:48:00.000+01:002006-10-14T00:48:00.000+01:00"I always found the HM comment credible. HM's comm...<I>"I always found the HM comment credible. HM's comments/feelings...La Cherie and her creaky knees---often come out."</I><BR/><BR/>And you believe this dodgy comment came out how? Do you really think a woman of 80 would have made a comment about a woman of 50-ish's (30 years younger, just to spell it out) "creaky knees"? That is just so silly. <BR/><BR/>I would think her comments, if any, on trailer trash cherie, would be far more pointed and made in private.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160779049694586072006-10-13T23:37:00.000+01:002006-10-13T23:37:00.000+01:00>Dynamite - First prize for the funniest post of h...>Dynamite - First prize for the funniest post of he day.<<BR/><BR/>Do you clap when Co-Co pops turn the milk chocolaty?Aaron Murin-Heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11519231609156056620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160777705646597612006-10-13T23:15:00.000+01:002006-10-13T23:15:00.000+01:00BTW, Slim Jim, I enjoyed your post. But I don't t...BTW, Slim Jim, I enjoyed your post. But I don't think Brown has a chance in hell of becoming prime minister. He's already been operating beyond his level of competence for 10 years. According to the Peter Principle, he should have been sacked years ago.<BR/><BR/>I think Alan Johnson will be the Labour contender. And I think he'll get in. People relate to him. They just don't relate to an OE with a wind turbine on his roof in Notting Hill or wherever he lives, doing very obvious and God-awful publicity stunts. That he has agreed to these stunts tells me Dave is not overly bright, although he's greedy for attention, like tony. <BR/><BR/>But Alan Johnson is clever. You wouldn't catch <I>him</I> dressed in a parka on a Norwegian ice floe posing with huskies. Or any other obviously phony photo ops. As in Dave posing for a b/w photo before his trip to India, trying to look like an idealistic young man setting out for India long years ago. (Before they had colour film.)<BR/>Oh, the nostalgia! Oh, wait, that was only a couple of months ago!<BR/><BR/>If Dave has to stand against Alan Johnson, I'm sorry Iain, but people will turn out to vote for Johnson in their droves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160776320774680112006-10-13T22:52:00.000+01:002006-10-13T22:52:00.000+01:00Chuck Unsworthy - V good!HMStanley writes: "On you...Chuck Unsworthy - V good!<BR/><BR/>HMStanley writes: <I>"On your theory,[Verity] contra reasoning..Blair is so craven that he would want to share intimacies with Clinton..is equally plausible"</I><BR/><BR/>Not at all. Weak people don't knowingly advertise that they're weak. They pose as strong. People like Clinton don't pick weak people to be friends with. I do not believe that he ever confided that he has a dicky heart to either Clinton or HM.<BR/><BR/>How would Blair's private confidence to the Queen get out? The minute he was out of the royal presence, she picked up the phone and called Richard Littlejohn with a tip-off? Come on! He didn't tell the Queen he has a weak heart and the Queen didn't tell the papers or anyone else who would tell the papers. <BR/><BR/>Bravo, Wonderful for His Age - There is an intent to deceive. Blair has done it more successfully, until now, but both are despicable.<BR/><BR/>I am getting a stronger and stronger feeling that this is going to end unexpectedly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160774304719160232006-10-13T22:18:00.000+01:002006-10-13T22:18:00.000+01:00Evening Iain,It's all 'ticker tape', you know, rea...Evening Iain,<BR/><BR/>It's all 'ticker tape', you know, ready for the fall when things look bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160774035743020732006-10-13T22:13:00.000+01:002006-10-13T22:13:00.000+01:00It's actually more a question of 'which' particula...It's actually more a question of 'which' particular queen mentioned Blair's 'condition'....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160772577548379172006-10-13T21:49:00.000+01:002006-10-13T21:49:00.000+01:00You can always tell when Blair is telling porkies ...You can always tell when Blair is telling porkies - his lips are moving!<BR/><BR/>Thye perversity is that we put up with it!<BR/><BR/>Wht? If tghis was Maerica we would have impeached the little shit by now!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06514885826616402615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160772335200135472006-10-13T21:45:00.000+01:002006-10-13T21:45:00.000+01:00I do not believe for one minute that Blair had a h...I do not believe for one minute that Blair had a heart problem.<BR/><BR/>If I believed he had a heart, I might do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com