tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116026940552292604..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: EXCLUSIVE: Sir Ian Blair Says New Terror Attack Could Lead to InternmentIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3152254037395889982007-03-22T18:02:00.000+00:002007-03-22T18:02:00.000+00:00Snow on Pine - thousands and thousands if not mill...Snow on Pine - thousands and thousands if not millions of Muslims in the UK marched against the war in Iraq before it was launched, in what was the largest demonstration I have ever personally participated in. That illegal war continues to bring shame on all those who seek to exclusively blame Muslims for the terror threat.<BR/><BR/>Anyone else who feels that Islam is an inherently warmongering or intolerant faith needs to look at their history books. For example: it's a fact that Islamic scholars protected the seeds of Western philosophy and democracy by rescuing and translating the texts of the Ancient Greeks in the Dark Ages, when Europe was in the throes of superstitious, religious conflict.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163280287806610792006-11-11T21:24:00.000+00:002006-11-11T21:24:00.000+00:00This explains everything to do with the third Blai...This explains everything to do with the third Blair (after Tony & Jewish George Orwell) and the war on terra<BR/><BR/>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947<BR/><BR/>Everything posted above skirts the issueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1161344338894336682006-10-20T12:38:00.000+01:002006-10-20T12:38:00.000+01:00Reading the comments here makes me realise I have ...Reading the comments here makes me realise I have to emigrate a little sooner that I had planned. For crying out loud, Muslims make up 3% of the population. They're going to breed us out of the country? You people sound like Nazis talking about Jews. I am aghast that nobody ever mentions that Germany's juridprudence, and its transition from republic into dictatorship was fuelled largely by inflated hysteria over terrorism and deliberately stoked fear of the Other. Blair has played his hand in an very similar way to that of Hitler in Germany. <BR/><BR/>Iain Dale does some excellent work. Unfortunately it seems to attract totalitarian warmongers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1161064394201359352006-10-17T06:53:00.000+01:002006-10-17T06:53:00.000+01:00http://icssa.org/uk_internment.htmlhttp://icssa.org/uk_internment.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160893181972292002006-10-15T07:19:00.000+01:002006-10-15T07:19:00.000+01:00anonymous is a fool.Europe is a dead man walking. ...anonymous is a fool.<BR/><BR/>Europe is a dead man walking. <BR/><BR/>You fear the loss of civil liberties? You've already lost that. Your police held a 14 year old girl in custody for 6 hours for allegedly making a racist remark in school. I bet you don't even blink an eye at that. <BR/><BR/>Wake up! Within 20 years there will be NO BRITAIN! The Muslims are having more babies than you are and they will destroy your culture and your society. This is a chilling post from a Muslim woman crowing over it:<BR/><BR/>Assalamau-Laikum American Crusader, <BR/>You say "Muslims will be the majority in Russia during our lifetime and over 40% of today's Russian conscripts are of Muslim identity".<BR/>Ofcourse the situation is stacked even better for muslims that this prediction. The important statistic I think you will find is the ratio numbers of the "15 to 25" age group between the polluted Kaffur and the pure muslims. <BR/>Almost in each and every european country muslims have about a 10% (or more) positive margin of this age group over the Kaffur. <BR/>These youngersters and their childrens will form the majority of populations in Europe and the Russ too..and ofcourse will run the government/economy and the defence too. <BR/>As to feeding/education/housing etc....the infedel governments do no discrimination... muslims WILL be fed, housed and clothed thanks you very much. <BR/>In effect the Kaffur scientists of today are developing WMD for the muslim of tomorrow...all at the cost of the Kafur...Allah SWT truly works in mysterious ways. <BR/>American crusader...the 21st Centuary IS for the muslim and he shall spread the light of Islam to you too via the Koran...hopefully you will see this wonderful change in your lifetime. <BR/>As to the Russ...it looks like he understands the situation very well...he knows that his future is lost to Islam....Putin and his generation want to enjoy thier life as Kafur while they can....the kids can look after themselves <BR/>...after all they will be muslim anyway. <BR/>Posted by: Naseem at September 25, 2006 10:49 <BR/><BR/>Go to Jihadwatch.org. Educate yourself. Get your head out of the sand!atheling2https://www.blogger.com/profile/17162926067744444613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160701150788478892006-10-13T01:59:00.000+01:002006-10-13T01:59:00.000+01:00Ananymous, whoever you are--Show me the masses of ...Ananymous, whoever you are--Show me the masses of moderate Muslims demonstrating against terror, terrorists and jihad and maybe I'll think that Muslims in general are not the problem. Until they declare themselves against jihad by their concrete actions, they are part of the problem.<BR/><BR/>You seem to be awfully adept at throwing that "hate" label around. Seems to me if some person or group wants to takeover your country, subject you to their domination and wants you and yours dead, says so incessantly and demonstrates that it is not an idle threat by actually killing, defending against them or him is a very rational and understandable act.<BR/><BR/>I point out here that there are no gangs of masked Christians or Jews killing people all over the world tonight, that Chrisians and Jews do not make signs asking that those who they feel have slighted Jesus or Adonai be beheaded and that no Christians or Jews or, people of any other faith for that matter, have kidnapped people and beheaded them in religious snuff films.<BR/><BR/>If you wish to "turn the other cheek" by all means, do so.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160684646475540112006-10-12T21:24:00.000+01:002006-10-12T21:24:00.000+01:00verity said... "Talk of special government emergen...verity said... <BR/><BR/>"Talk of special government emergency powers to arrest people, and the muslim problem, which is being experienced all over the world wherever there are muslim immigrants.."<BR/><BR/>Wow Verity.."the Muslim problem", your starting to sound like Hitler when he used to talk about the "Jewish problem"<BR/><BR/>To the people posting here who are obviously extremists and filled with hate I would say to demonise a whole people such as you do leads down only one possible path. <BR/><BR/>Which is the slippery slope to murder we have unfortunately seen before too many times in the Holocaust, Rwanda and Bosnia. <BR/><BR/>No one in their sane mind would believe all or most British Muslims are “the enemy”. When I hear such hateful rhetoric it reminds me of this poem:<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>When the Nazis came for the communists,<BR/>I remained silent;<BR/>I was not a communist.<BR/><BR/>When they locked up the social democrats,<BR/>I remained silent;<BR/>I was not a social democrat.<BR/><BR/>When they came for the trade unionists,<BR/>I did not speak out;<BR/>I was not a trade unionist.<BR/><BR/>When they came for the Jews,<BR/>I did not speak out;<BR/>I was not a Jew.<BR/><BR/>When they came for me,<BR/>there was no one left to speak out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160684361634336352006-10-12T21:19:00.000+01:002006-10-12T21:19:00.000+01:00To the people posting here who are obviously extre...To the people posting here who are obviously extremists and filled with hate I would say to demonise a whole people such as you do leads down only one possible path. <BR/><BR/>Which is the slippery slope to murder we have unfortunately seen before too many times in the Holocaust, Rwanda and Bosnia. <BR/><BR/>No one in their sane mind would believe all or most British Muslims are “the enemy”. When I hear such hateful rhetoric it reminds me of this poem:<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>When the Nazis came for the communists,<BR/>I remained silent;<BR/>I was not a communist.<BR/><BR/>When they locked up the social democrats,<BR/>I remained silent;<BR/>I was not a social democrat.<BR/><BR/>When they came for the trade unionists,<BR/>I did not speak out;<BR/>I was not a trade unionist.<BR/><BR/>When they came for the Jews,<BR/>I did not speak out;<BR/>I was not a Jew.<BR/><BR/>When they came for me,<BR/>there was no one left to speak out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160608628351796492006-10-12T00:17:00.000+01:002006-10-12T00:17:00.000+01:00Well said on both posts above, Snow on Pine! The ...Well said on both posts above, Snow on Pine! The first one was especially apt - from a British point of view.<BR/><BR/>That the British are so easily distracted is disquieting. Talk of special government emergency powers to arrest people, and the muslim problem, which is being experienced all over the world wherever there are muslim immigrants, fades into the background and people jump up and down about the very civil rights they are about to hand the muslims on a platter without a whimper.<BR/><BR/>Admittedly, tony blair is a very dangerous piece of work - partly because he isn't very bright and is easily controlled by appeals to his ego - and certainly having ceded so much of his authority to the muslim special pleading groups makes him even more hazardous to the health of Britain - but the citizens can wrest control from him through the ballot box. <BR/><BR/>But - inexplicably in my eyes - they voted him in the first time, and then for two more elections, they failed to see the damage he had wrought - and was intent on wreaking - to our civil society, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights. He had organised it that people became afraid to speak out in defence of their own country.<BR/><BR/>In this, he was ably assisted by the British media - Special Lifetime Achievement Oscar to the BBC, of course - but also those we had thought were warriors for freedom on all fronts. Not one British paper published the Motoons. I would have expected The Telegraph and The Times to take the bit between their teeth ... but instead they handed a grand victory to the islamists with puerile editorials on how "responsible" they felt it to be not to address the question.<BR/><BR/>So the islamists assumed, and not incorrectly, that had won two major battles in Britain: they had committed mass murder and maiming on London Transport and had deflected the blame from themselves to a notional "Islamophobia". This took some fancy footwork, but the aggressive muslim lobby proved to be a nimble-footed Fred Astaire and Tony was their willing Ginger.<BR/><BR/>The second victory was the iron- fisted fear instilled in the British press. No Motoons. Spain, France, Sweden and Germany (those sad continentals we always assumed weren't quite up to British standards in the liberty tables) published them. As did Jordan. As did Mexico.<BR/><BR/>Meditate on it, folks. The roadmap is staring you in the face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160608449182900132006-10-12T00:14:00.000+01:002006-10-12T00:14:00.000+01:00"...it this a pretext for detention camps here as ..."...it this a pretext for detention camps here as the ones being currently built in the U.S?"<BR/><BR/>The camps already exist in GB! Rollestone and Alma-Detingen camps on Salisbury plain were set up in the mid 1980's on just that pretext. <BR/><BR/>Source: http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/jt200203/jtselect/jtdcc/184/18422.htm<BR/><BR/>The facilities are already in place, the 'enabling act' has been passed, and the British people still think it only happens in 'barbaric' foreign countries like the US!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160600695866266752006-10-11T22:04:00.000+01:002006-10-11T22:04:00.000+01:00Anonymous--First let me congratulate you on the co...Anonymous--First let me congratulate you on the courage of your anonymous convictions.<BR/><BR/>Funny that you should bring up the old "FEMA concentration camp" meme because, as a matter of fact, I just recently retired from a research position in Washington, D.C. in which I spent some 25 years researching just such questions as your "FEMA concentration camps" question. <BR/><BR/>Have you ever read executive orders, studied the texts of Congressional debates, read committee hearings, looked at legislation, talked to government experts, scanned internet websites and read journal, legal and newspaper articles covering the issues surrounding such purported U.S. concentration camps, because I spent many days doing just that.<BR/><BR/>As far as I could determine, buried among the massive quantities of emergency legislation passed by Congress during WWII, the U.S. government designated certain physical locations as sites for temporary holding areas in case of a large scale civil disturbance in Washington, D. C. Such locations never were used nor were there any structures built on them, they remained just notional. There were many laws passed in WWII giving the government expanded powers that did not automatically expire with the end of WWII, so when the U.S. congress got around to it, many decades later, legislation was passed to end a whole legion of such disparate laws and included in this legislation was language eliminating even these notional locations.<BR/><BR/>As of a few years ago, there was a least one website that had put up what at first glance looked like pretty convincing descriptions of what their "civilian scouts" had found when they checked what they thought were "concentration camp" sites supposedly being constructed on former U.S. military bases. The "citizen scouts" surveillence and scouting reports looked pretty professional until you actually started to read them in detail. When you did you found something like this--"scouts report that they observed (with binoculars from outside the perimeter fence) two new pipes, that weren't there six months ago, protruding out of the parking lot on a supposedly abandoned U.S. military base, also spotted new fencing and some truck activity. The observed diameter of these pipes indicates that they may be part of a ventilation system for a newly constructed underground holding facility."<BR/><BR/>Now,if you were so inclined, you could go all X-FILES and also view these things as actually part of the MAJESTIC-12 program but, bottom line, no concentration camps.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160583005655452692006-10-11T17:10:00.000+01:002006-10-11T17:10:00.000+01:00"I suggest that you are not looking at the hand th..."I suggest that you are not looking at the hand that holds the ball and will be all too astounded when the empty hand opens to disclose precisely nothing at which point it will be far too late." - err, well, that's my point exactly, you prove it in manner you couldn't possibly conceive.<BR/><BR/>A case in point; as someone actually living in "your" country as you put it, I can categorically say that Muslims are not being given favourable treatment in the media as you claim, quite the opposite! Yet you know more and you don't even live here!<BR/><BR/>Further evidence is that 2 supposed "ex-BNP" whites caught with chemical weapons in Burnley recently didn't get a mention in the national press. Yet I find tons of attention paid to "veils" (pun intended)and Muslims mini-cab drivers who refuse to take guide dogs in their cars (did they suddenly start doing this or rather have they been doing this since they were here but now it's an issue that can be used to bash them further with?. I suggest, my friend, it may be you are the one who is distracted. And yes, this is for God's sake and your sake that I say this. If you live in the US, just google "FEMA concentration camps" and you'll find your nearest local detention centre happily being built for something that hasn't happened already! I'd love for you, if you live anywhere near these places, to go and check them out and confirm me wrong, seldom have I ever wished to be wrong about something as I am now about this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160579631058560612006-10-11T16:13:00.000+01:002006-10-11T16:13:00.000+01:00Its called distraction. Some of you are so focused...Its called distraction. Some of you are so focused on what you view as the fascist government and its reactions that you completely ignore the Muslim actions which have caused your government to react, if only weakly and half-heartedly, as it has. I suggest that you are not looking at the hand that holds the ball and will be all too astounded when the empty hand opens to disclose precisely nothing at which point it will be far too late.<BR/><BR/>Meantime, your country is under attack by Muslims from within, your Media, Government and upper class are captives of political correctness, and the BBC and most of your newspapers and other media are censoring some news, misrepresenting other news and generally turning roadsigns to the benefit of the Muslim cause. Increasingly the rights of native born citizens, many pushed out of neighborhoods they have lived in for generations by unassimilable Muslim "immigrants," are trumped on a daily basis by the special needs and privileges demanded by and given to Muslims; Muslims who want Islam and Sharia to rule all of you that are left after the Muslims get done with you. <BR/><BR/>And you worry about the government stealing your rights! For God's sake man, look at the other hand that really holds the ball.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160571422649591142006-10-11T13:57:00.000+01:002006-10-11T13:57:00.000+01:00Agree with you entirely Stuart - it is obvious fro...Agree with you entirely Stuart - it is obvious from the comments read here that the populace "are primed" to encourage the disintegration of their civil liberties under the guise of a pre-planned "islamic terrorist attack". Thinking it will only be applied to Muslims, they will not be prepared when those very same internment laws are used against them. And frankly speaking, they deserve it because they encouraged it by letting themselves be manipulated by their government. The recent stories of not enough prison places should be viewed ominously - it this a pretext for detention camps here as the ones being currently built in the U.S?<BR/><BR/>Thanks be to God he has given some of us the wisdom to foresee these things.I for one will be long gone from here as the repercussions of a fraudulent fiat money system designed to enslave people take it's inevitable ugly course.<BR/><BR/>Most of all, I pray for the deluded, may the truth come to them sooner rather than later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160535566151944882006-10-11T03:59:00.000+01:002006-10-11T03:59:00.000+01:00This is horrifying. Already we are more than halfw...This is horrifying. Already we are more than halfway down the road to a police state and this black-uniformed control freak is practically jumping for joy at the prospect of another bloodbath and the "emergency powers" he will gain in the aftermath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160419602234742572006-10-09T19:46:00.000+01:002006-10-09T19:46:00.000+01:00Snow on Pine - bravo!The British who claim that th...Snow on Pine - bravo!<BR/><BR/>The British who claim that the jihadis are aberrant and the Muslim "community" disapproves of them are whistling in the dark. <BR/><BR/>Just remember all those videos of kidnap victims eventually being beheaded. Remember that poor Margaret someone, married to an Iraqi for 20 years or more, who spoke flawless Arabic and helped disadvantaged Iraqi children all her life - who was kidnapped by jihadis? Why? She had already converted to islam years ago. And after they beheaded her, which they eventually did, they disembowelled her because she was a woman. They despise women.<BR/><BR/>Do you think these hordes of notional "moderate" (sic) muslims disapproved of this?<BR/><BR/>The other side of the coin is that there are enlightened, thoughtful, modern-minded muslims who do want to see a reformation in islam, but they are very few. One of the most prominent is a young Torontonian, Irshad Manjit, a Suni, witty, fashionable, outrageous. (When someone in the audience at a talk she was giving asked her if the Israelis had paid her to write her book, she shot back, "No. A shekel doesn't buy what it used to.") She has a website and you can Google her.<BR/><BR/>But she and half a dozen others are rarities. <I>/They</I> are the "tiny minority".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160417526560187092006-10-09T19:12:00.000+01:002006-10-09T19:12:00.000+01:00Has it never occured to anybody that there have be...Has it never occured to anybody that there have been no "moderate Muslim" demonstrations, thousands or even hundreds-strong, protesting against terrorism, terrorists or the much discussed haijacking of the "peaceful" words of the Koran?<BR/><BR/>The core documents of Islam--The Koran, the Hadith and the jurisprudence flowing from them teaches Muslims that non-believers are inferior, deluded beings destined to burn forever in fire, that Muslims are not to make friends with an unbeliever and, indeed, can lie to and deceive an unbeliever if in doing so they advance the cause of Islam, which is, ultimately, the subjugation of all unbelievers and all countries under Islam and Sharia law. Furthrmore, Muslim practice is that all treaties or cease fires they might sign are only temporary; a time for Muslims to regroup and rearm for the next battle.<BR/><BR/>This is why there have been no "moderate Muslim" anti-terrorist deomonstrations and why there will be none. The "moderate Muslims" may not be active terrorists--although they are enjoined by their religion to give donations for jihad if they can't themselves participate-- but they, with the terrorists, believe what the Koran teaches about infidels. These moderates may, indeed, believe that were all deluded infidels cleansed of their delusions by being forceably converted into Muslims, it would be a blessing for those so converted; Muslims see forced conversion to Islam as just as legitimate as conversion by choice.<BR/><BR/>This is not an enemy that you can accomodate or negotiate with but rather one that needs to be fought on every front and on every level.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160414832475231462006-10-09T18:27:00.000+01:002006-10-09T18:27:00.000+01:00We should stockpile laws for such an eventuality, ...We should stockpile laws for such an eventuality, just as we stockpile vaccines, just as Professor Philip Bobbitt has said.<BR/><BR/>Let us NOW debate what we will do if a catastrophe should come to pass. If laws are rushed through in the wake of an attack, then the legitimacy of such laws will be under severe strain, indeed the very basis of the State could come under severe stress after a large scale attack. With debate now about the extent of the change in the scope of the law after such an event, then I think we have an excellent chance of getting through these attacks with systems of consent in place. It might also act as a deterrence to those who might committ mass murder with a politcal objective, and provide reassurance to the public. That would be a sign of a maturing UK response to a changing world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160412893319469232006-10-09T17:54:00.000+01:002006-10-09T17:54:00.000+01:00snow on pine - This is what I have been arguing, a...snow on pine - This is what I have been arguing, and have been castigated for arguing, for the past year. People in general know nothing about islam. They think it's another form of Christianity. <BR/><BR/>This is Brits who believe "We all worship the same God." No. We don't. This is people who believe the Blair propaganda, that the "vast majority are as shocked as we are". No. They're not. They may not commit these atrocities themselves - jihad is a stupid young man's game - but they do not disapprove. This is why (with a few very honourable and very brave exceptions) they don't report what they know.<BR/><BR/>They don't report that mohammad at No. 42 down the street has suddenly grown a beard and is walking around dressed for the Arabian Nights and has taken up with a very tight little group. Or that their son has developed a sudden interest in his chemistry lessons.<BR/><BR/>They are not in the West to live in peace. They are here as aggressors, to conquer.<BR/><BR/>Blair's government has appeased and appeased and appeased because Blair is a genuine coward. Yellow streak down his back a mile wide. After the July mass murder, the first thing he did was not condemn the terrorists. Instead, he warned the British not to seek reprisals as these deeds were committed by "a tiny minority". Either he is a deeply stupid man (and it wouldn't take much more to convince me of this) or deeply evil. I can be convinced on that, too.<BR/><BR/>You're right. They've never read the koran. They've never read anything <I>about</I> the koran. They don't know that it commands them to make the whole world into Dar es-Islam, at the point of a sword if necessary. To make others live by islamic law is their "holy" mission. They get this pumped into their heads from childhood, five times a day.<BR/><BR/>I do think there's a groundswell beginning for a violent backlash. I am afraid that it is what it will take. Either that or a strong government, and we are not likely to have a strong government in Britain any time in the foreseeable future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160410923300491572006-10-09T17:22:00.000+01:002006-10-09T17:22:00.000+01:00No mention of Marshall law? We had an FLQ k...No mention of Marshall law? <BR/><BR/>We had an FLQ killing, [government minister in a car boot/trunk], and a bomb blast in a mailbox.<BR/><BR/>Prime Minister at the time, Trudeau, invoked Marshall Law.<BR/><BR/>That seemed to have a quenching effect. = TGTonyGuitarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02776707579617985174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160409163307354452006-10-09T16:52:00.000+01:002006-10-09T16:52:00.000+01:00Do you people ever pull your heads out and just, w...Do you people ever pull your heads out and just, well, look around? You've already been attacked by Muslims and taken significant civilian casualties, your security services have thwarted other major attacks, you've had all sorts of demonstrations featuring signs that read "Behead all who insult Islam," clashes all over the country most recently in Westminster, a largely self-censored press that dares not utter the words terrorist or Muslim together, you've got increasing numbers of unassimilable Muslims pressing for all sorts of special priveleges--a sort of creeping Sharia--and many Muslims in Britain, when polled, think that the Muslim terrorist attacks were justtified. Yet, some of your posters are waiting for the overwhelming numbers of "moderate Muslims" akin to the fabled unicorn, to handle this problem caused by a tiny minority of extremists in their midst.<BR/><BR/>Do any of you ever actually read the Koran, study what Muhammad, regarded by Muslims as the "Perfect Man" to be emulated in all things, actually did to and said about non-muslims during his lifetime, or try to find out how Islam has treated Christians and Jews during these last 1,300 plus years?<BR/><BR/>You have an enormous and deadly problem which, if unsolved, will result in your destruction and enslavement. <BR/><BR/>Seeing all that has transpired as a plot by the fascist government to steal your rights, or as a focus for self-congratulatory "understanding," "sensitivity" and politically correct multiculuralism is wasted effort--just convert to Islam now and you can get in on the ground floor.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160406798189993662006-10-09T16:13:00.000+01:002006-10-09T16:13:00.000+01:00@Verity:Quite right - the whole 'left' 'right' dis...@Verity:<BR/><BR/>Quite right - the whole 'left' 'right' distinction is meaningless when really we're only talking about the difference between national socialism and international socialism.<BR/><BR/>I think the ground is being prepared for a backlash against muslim immigrants. The overreactions and airtime given to 'offended'/oppressed' muslims seems to me to be calculated to provoke such a reaction from 'non-muslims' (as they like to call the rest of us). Even the Guardian reader I know is extremely pissed off about all the coverage (ok so he's a Hindu ...). I wonder If they're just agents provocateurs? I mean I can't imagine anyone being sympathetic to the constant whining - that is why I say it's a calculated provocation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160400291994140182006-10-09T14:24:00.000+01:002006-10-09T14:24:00.000+01:00The Druid and Anonymous 1:39 - Hitler was far left...The Druid and Anonymous 1:39 - Hitler was far left, sweeties. Not far right. Read your history. Similarly, the BNP is very far left; it isn't a right wing party. If it were, I'd vote for it. Substitute the word "whites" for the word "workers" and you have a communist manifesto.<BR/><BR/>Again, The Druid, speaking of muslims, says: "Incidentally you shouldn't bunch all Muslims together. The majority are decent honorable people. We need their help to root out the bad guys."<BR/><BR/>Well, you're certainly an easy fellow to convince. How do you reach a place where you're so willing to ignore the evidence before you and choose instead to believe Tony Blair's propaganda?<BR/><BR/>In survey, over a third of them said they thought Britain should have sharia law. (More, if you count the 'don't knows' who were quick-witted enough not to commit themselves.) Eighteen percent said they "could understand" why those self-detonators committed mass murder on London Transport. More of them - can't remember the figures - think 9/11 was organised by George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. <BR/><BR/>Look at it this way: if "the vast majority" were moderate, and were the jihadis and jihadi sympathisers and enablers really "a tiny minority", that mythical vast majority would have no trouble controlling this "tiny minority".<BR/><BR/>Why do they not control them? Because in their heart of hearts, they believe the self-detonators are right.<BR/><BR/>Do not take comfort from Tony Blair, who seems to have had an uneasy relationship with the truth for his entire life. It suits him to keep civil order not by rooting out the terrorists, but by telling soothing lies to 58m ethnic Brits and well-integrated immigrants.<BR/><BR/>Don't look for Tony Blair to tell you the truth. There is no balm in Gilead.<BR/><BR/>Buster George - You have failed to get my point and I don't think the fault lies with me.<BR/><BR/>You write: "As for being ethnocentric, if you mean do I appreciate some of the traditions and cultural differences form other nationalities that have influenced this country for the better then yes I am. After all the Greeks Brought democracy to the world, should we do away wihth that because it wasn't a British idea?" We are the same ethnicity as the Greeks, so what is your problem? We are all Caucasians. What you do not understand is the Middle East mentality.<BR/><BR/>It is a canard in any case. Whether or not you like people of other races doesn't depend on the race; it depends on the person.<BR/><BR/>What I, and quite a few others here, are objecting to is the cowardly appeasement of the Blair régime and their eagerness to allow primitive, aggressive immigrants who are followers of a violent religion/cult to gain ascendancy and rights over the indigenous people who have had ownership of this country for 2,000 years. (And the conquerors who came were the same race as us and had the same religion as us, so let's not rehearse that old argument). The wanted our land, but they didn't want to deliver us up to an alien, violent, aggressive diety.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160397596689577592006-10-09T13:39:00.000+01:002006-10-09T13:39:00.000+01:00"If anyone thinks that far right parties are the a..."If anyone thinks that far right parties are the answer then you should read your history. Try The Coming of the Third Reich by Richard J. Evans to see what happens when you go down that road. Who wants to live in a horrid hate ridden society like that?"<BR/><BR/>Well, that might be bad, but still infinitely preferable to the Islamic servitude we are headed to thanks to the cowardice and treason of the liblabcon parties who have created this mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1160394509419520232006-10-09T12:48:00.000+01:002006-10-09T12:48:00.000+01:00This video showing a possible internment camp in t...This video showing a possible internment camp in the USA scared the hell out of me - <BR/>http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258deCinabrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11775075792914867182noreply@blogger.com