tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post1150591019431334568..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Cruddas Targeted in Labour Dirty TricksIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57378139400422830032007-05-29T00:49:00.000+01:002007-05-29T00:49:00.000+01:00Cruddas - the Essex "oik" who really cares about D...Cruddas - the Essex "oik" who really cares about Dagenham, it's people and prospects. Yeah right.<BR/><BR/>Cruddas - Prescott without "O" levelsJeremy Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02014279463894807064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56579921544608783142007-05-29T00:28:00.000+01:002007-05-29T00:28:00.000+01:00Even this wombat Walters from the Mail is not quit...Even this wombat Walters from the Mail is not quite saying what you're saying Iain. He says JC has two homes, yes. But not that he bought the second to fiddle school entrance. In fact the article quotes Jon saying that his son was at a local primary that feeds Bishop Vaughans. The story is the fairly abandoned primary residence in Dagenham rather than the well-peopled secondary home in Notting Hill. Interesting discussion over at mine. Caroline seems to be rebutter and fan in chief for JC.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46142606046526821972007-05-28T23:23:00.000+01:002007-05-28T23:23:00.000+01:00Hazel Blears is carefully selecting the audience f...Hazel Blears is carefully selecting the audience for her speach.<BR/>Putting P smith name and address comes back with, we realy need your full names and address!<BR/>Anyone with right of centre politics is then told sorry no more tickets!<BR/>Oh how wonderful democracy is and how fortunate for some we have the database state!paigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923483881178119536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20793009548635718452007-05-28T18:35:00.000+01:002007-05-28T18:35:00.000+01:00Having heard Cruddas on Radio 4's Today on Friday ...Having heard Cruddas on Radio 4's Today on Friday morning, suggesting it was perfectly OK for British born people to be permanently at the back of the housing queue so new migrants could have the houses - on the basis of "need", you understand - I immediately understood what kind of Socialist he was!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3049605609967623502007-05-28T13:58:00.000+01:002007-05-28T13:58:00.000+01:00You really are thick aren't you? Once something g...You really are thick aren't you? Once something gets taken up by the broadcast media, any antecedents in the printed word get long forgotten. Then the Comment writers of the Guardian, Times and Indy start chewing you over - and then you fall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60522831236263893092007-05-28T12:38:00.000+01:002007-05-28T12:38:00.000+01:00"Dummy! The whole point of getting it into any tab..."Dummy! The whole point of getting it into any tabloid is to get it so that it is talked about on TV and radio. So you give it to the tabloid who will run it big." <BR/><BR/>Stop being an idiot. Anything that comes out of the Mail is dismissed by Labour Members as automatically nasty. It might have been a bit more effective if it had come from the Mirror.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75450015744156488142007-05-28T12:24:00.000+01:002007-05-28T12:24:00.000+01:00"The Zimmers" is just another way the BBC/NuLab th..."The Zimmers" is just another way the BBC/NuLab through that talentless slimeball Samuels humiliates and infantilises ordinary people.<BR/><BR/>The "zimmers" and all the others set up by these scum should open their eyes and see how they've been ridiculed and made fools of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78350341110389972952007-05-28T10:51:00.000+01:002007-05-28T10:51:00.000+01:00Well that's socialists for you ain't it, do as i s...Well that's socialists for you ain't it, do as i say not as I do. Morally conceited control freaks the lot of 'em.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53350980376222488182007-05-28T10:47:00.000+01:002007-05-28T10:47:00.000+01:00The Zimmers.Another bit of social engineering by h...The Zimmers.Another bit of social engineering by he BBC.They should point out Government failings in regards to pensioners and Labour's sneering attitude towards 'Tories' and the rich that perpetuates the (actually defunct) idea of class.It's Labour's sneering (just pandering to the perceived envy of certain of theie supporters)that gives the lie to their 'respect agenda' and is one of the real causes of pensioners and the elderly not being able to live in peace and safety.The BBC,not religion,is the opium of the people.It really should just be for Christmas and not for life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89160203939665645482007-05-28T10:20:00.000+01:002007-05-28T10:20:00.000+01:00Praguetory's piece is a real eye-opener (totally a...Praguetory's piece is a real eye-opener (totally agree with those pointing out the distractive, Hain-like nature of the MoS piece yesterday). I admit to being fond of Jon Cruddas, in that way that Tories can get fond of friendly seeming authentic socialists, and Praguetory's piece is a useful corrective, to remind us that he's a pro-ID card Chavez-supporter.Graeme Archerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13995457637445873579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89557677541507892192007-05-28T10:16:00.000+01:002007-05-28T10:16:00.000+01:00I would say you can define a socialist by the way ...I would say you can define a socialist by the way they climb up a ladder then destroy it so none else can follow them.they use every trick in the book to hide it but they are just power hungry hypocrits.After 10 yrs of nulab look around and ask yourself is this working?.They even protest their own policys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61565882106961986522007-05-28T09:15:00.000+01:002007-05-28T09:15:00.000+01:00TapastryIts worse then that HB is just a cowardly ...Tapastry<BR/>Its worse then that HB is just a cowardly missguided upperclass twit like his father. The public are being 'informed' by the BBC that Gordon Brown is just like Tony Blair. Which is a not so closeted Thatcherite. <BR/><BR/>"But then what the hell its still better the Tories would be doing, they might start getting the BBC to be honest for a change or privatise or simply close us down."<BR/><BR/>Neither TB or GB where or are anything like Thatcher GB least of all, in anything other then retoric.<BR/><BR/>The clue is looking, as you have, at what types of characters in the socialist ranks have nothing bad to say about Gordon Brown right now. That should make you start reaching for the bottle or the rope.<BR/><BR/>Has Ken Livingstone or even George Galloway said anything bad about Brown lately? NO. Because they are still talking about Tony Blair the "fall guy." And fully expecting the real leader to carry on doing his very REAL long and short term dirty work for them.<BR/><BR/>Untill that is, democracy can no longer do anything about anything. Which is a time not as distant as some may hope.<BR/><BR/>"The king is dead long live king Ken/George"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50312312716896887512007-05-28T09:03:00.000+01:002007-05-28T09:03:00.000+01:00I wish I was rich enough to be a left wing Labour ...I wish I was rich enough to be a left wing Labour MP.Seriously,my wonder is that it takes so long for the truth about these vile hypocrites to emerge.Presumably,had he not decide to stand for Deputy Leader,Cruddas could have carried on pulling the wool over everyone's eyes and parading his left wing "conscience" ad infinitum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51666090689407213502007-05-28T07:59:00.000+01:002007-05-28T07:59:00.000+01:00Seems like Gordon likes Hilary Benn. Both are kee...Seems like Gordon likes Hilary Benn. Both are keen on subsidising poor african countries with high taxes on the rich. Benn is reassuring the EU that Gordon is OK in media today. How would he be saying that unless he was 'close' politically?Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1770448545770829592007-05-28T07:55:00.000+01:002007-05-28T07:55:00.000+01:00Don't ever forget that Lenin's father was employed...Don't ever forget that Lenin's father was employed as a Tsarist Schools Inspector......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44639784783320192002007-05-28T06:20:00.000+01:002007-05-28T06:20:00.000+01:00BTWVery slightly less odious megleomanic socialist...BTW<BR/>Very slightly less odious megleomanic socialists getting quietly stabbed in the back by very crazy even more ambitious and smarter megleomanic socialists is so completly 'NORMAL' that it is hardly worth commenting on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50024968893312747572007-05-28T05:54:00.000+01:002007-05-28T05:54:00.000+01:00More Cruddas hypocrisy. This one didn't need to be...More <A HREF="http://praguetory.blogspot.com/2007/05/oppose-censorship-in-venezuala.html" REL="nofollow">Cruddas hypocrisy</A>. This one didn't need to be leaked.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84707890760000252142007-05-28T05:32:00.000+01:002007-05-28T05:32:00.000+01:00This type of stuff is not just hypocritical it is ...This type of stuff is not just hypocritical it is sadly very very normal.<BR/><BR/>Where in the world of left wing governments democratic or otherwise do the leaders live by the rules and conditions they set for ordinary people?<BR/><BR/>Answer<BR/><BR/>None whatsoever, and they never did have the intention of so doing.<BR/><BR/>They live in palaces and there party members and supporters in government live a quality of life that the ordinary citizens can only dream of. Useually in houses stollen from small ex working class business men, like myself. That seem to have 'accidently' shot themselves up against a wall somewhere.<BR/><BR/>This is in my opinion is the whole point of socialism for the despots that propose its elitist ideals.<BR/><BR/>They cant get rich or powerfull any other legal way. This for intellectual socialist megleomanics like Brown Castro Stalin Chevez Cruddas etc etc etc etc etc etc,is very frustrating and over time seriously messes with their minds.<BR/><BR/>Socialism relies on the elimination of the lower middle classes. When it becomes impossible for the poor to clime in financial and material life, socialism has won and won for good. Capitalism has failed the people and freedom has already disapeared, although it MAY take several years for anyone working hard or a bit thick to notice.<BR/><BR/>When the likes of Brown Chevez Castro have the media finally eating out of their hands it takes just about long enough for enough to notice that not even god herself can save the ordinary peoples desperate one party dictatorial authoritarian socialist situation, that they will inevitably and permanently find themselves.<BR/><BR/>Go to CUBA where the only and I do mean the ONLY thing that shines is the thousands of very tasty police motor-cycles. Wages for a Cuban policeman are 10 times the national salery which is a seriously poverty promoting $20 or 20 Cuban pesos a week. The vast magority of Cubans have not eaten meat for years, even if they work on the farm that produces it. The place possitivly stinks of polution everywhere but on the tourist beaches. Which are as nice and as pleasent as any elitist tourist beaches can be. However the ordinary people live in shit and helpless hopeless shit at that. If you go there you will soon see that that is a massive massive understatement.<BR/><BR/>This is a place that the mayor of the greatest capitalist capital city in the world Ken Livingstone described as "one of the most important developments of the 20th centuary."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61991950071882695202007-05-28T00:37:00.000+01:002007-05-28T00:37:00.000+01:00Anonymous said: It's just not fair.I still can't b...Anonymous said: It's just not fair.I still can't bring myself to vote Tory though. Am I a fool.<BR/><BR/>I think you have answered your own question!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89343321173628462142007-05-28T00:01:00.000+01:002007-05-28T00:01:00.000+01:00We are subjected to Labour hypocrisy almost every ...We are subjected to Labour hypocrisy almost every day. Why do I have to send my child to a failing state school where he has to wait to borrow a text book because there's not enough to go round whilst most Labour politicians send their children to a fee paying school or a good school out of the catchment area.It's just not fair.I still can't bring myself to vote Tory though. Am I a fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18350133883327005192007-05-27T22:59:00.000+01:002007-05-27T22:59:00.000+01:00Henry Kissinger's remark on why academic politics ...Henry Kissinger's remark on why academic politics are so vicious, "because the stakes are so small", applies equally well to the contest for deputy leader of the Labour party. It will make no difference even to Labour whether Cruddas, Blears, Hain or anyone else wins.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73946550218506148702007-05-27T22:40:00.000+01:002007-05-27T22:40:00.000+01:00What's this about Derek Conway in the Sunday Times...What's this about Derek Conway in the Sunday Times? Who's trying to smear him? Or is it all true? Will he be going on 18Ds to deny it?<BR/><BR/>I thought he was adecent sort of chap when he was on last time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59540999387702699612007-05-27T22:33:00.000+01:002007-05-27T22:33:00.000+01:00Good piece on the FT site today, detailing that th...Good piece on the FT site today, detailing that the coronation tour and dep leader vote is costing nu lab £1m. They are so skint they are charging £10 entry and £6 for commemorative mugs.<BR/><BR/>You couldn't make it upnaddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05593968814850316075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36951466067389102642007-05-27T21:40:00.000+01:002007-05-27T21:40:00.000+01:00Why not Brown? Cruddas maybe the most independen...Why not Brown? Cruddas maybe the most independent of the bunch and the Mail were used to run the Reid story.<BR/><BR/>Brown & wife are friends with Dacre and wife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25546764393926713462007-05-27T21:36:00.000+01:002007-05-27T21:36:00.000+01:00Anonymous [9.05 PM] You say, "If it was leaked, th...Anonymous [9.05 PM] You say, "If it was leaked, then why bother with the Mail? No Labour person ever reads the thing."<BR/><BR/>I am not so sure. I think they may read the Mail for the same reason I read the Guardian, viz. to increase my blood pressure.<BR/><BR/>(I do not, of course, BUY the Guardian. That would be going too far.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com