tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post114909827186478887..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: LibDems Select Bromley By-Election CandidateIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149194295422860892006-06-01T21:38:00.000+01:002006-06-01T21:38:00.000+01:00anonymous, Well, i did get it off the Sevenoaks Li...anonymous, Well, i did get it off the Sevenoaks LibDem site. I will do an update on the original post. Glad Ben reads this site. Tell him he should do a campaign blog!Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149193577541755472006-06-01T21:26:00.000+01:002006-06-01T21:26:00.000+01:00Having spoken to Ben Abbotts(who is actually a kee...Having spoken to Ben Abbotts(who is actually a keen reader of this site)today, he has confirmed that his wife doesn't work at a Grammar School now, didn't when he stood for Sevenoaks, and to his knowledge never has done. He says the Sevenoaks LD web site is wrong and has asked for it to be corrected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149174282712276572006-06-01T16:04:00.000+01:002006-06-01T16:04:00.000+01:00Lib Dem selection at by-election: letter to all th...Lib Dem selection at by-election: letter to all those on approved list sent out. Applications invited in very short order. A by-election panel is convened including federal party representatives and determines criteria by which the applicants will be judged, which are over and above the criteria necessary to stand at a general election. List is screened against the criteria, this may include interviews. All successful applicants are put before a general meeting of the local party who make the final selection. Those present vote one member, one vote by STV. Some provision for postal or proxy voting may be made. The meeting is usually well attended. <BR/><BR/>Party selection rules make it clear that no-one involved in the process talks to the press, except the returning officer who announces the result. Details of the vote, candidates, candidates unsuccesful and candidates outvoted are all confidential in all selections. The process is democratic, open to party scrutiny through appropriate channels, but it is not public.Nileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03060945134872813307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149173597163944572006-06-01T15:53:00.000+01:002006-06-01T15:53:00.000+01:00Chris, just one comment. Get a bloody sense of hum...Chris, just one comment. Get a bloody sense of humour mate.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149173359919053612006-06-01T15:49:00.000+01:002006-06-01T15:49:00.000+01:00More importantly, I thought this comment was taste...More importantly, <BR/><BR/>I thought this comment was tasteless Iain.<BR/><BR/>"Would you entrust your vote to someone who calls their daughter Tallulah?"<BR/><BR/>Not impressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149172726241600792006-06-01T15:38:00.000+01:002006-06-01T15:38:00.000+01:00How do the LibDems choose their candidates so quic...How do the LibDems choose their candidates so quickly?<BR/><BR/>They tax their membership 'just a penny in the pound' for every day they wait. I remember Paddy Pantsdown started that 'just a penny in the pound on tax will solve this problem' thing...unfortunately for us, Britain has 103 problems.LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149163065995925772006-06-01T12:57:00.000+01:002006-06-01T12:57:00.000+01:00"Why isn't she on the A-List?"because she has alre..."Why isn't she on the A-List?"<BR/><BR/>because she has already been re-selected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149161935939904252006-06-01T12:38:00.000+01:002006-06-01T12:38:00.000+01:00Tabman - I used to know Caroline Nokes before she ...Tabman - I used to know Caroline Nokes before she was married, and she was absolutely divine. I won't hear a word said against that delightful young lady. Why isn't she on the A-List?<BR/><BR/>Withdraw that unwarranted slight on her judgement if you please, Sir!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149156513806964532006-06-01T11:08:00.000+01:002006-06-01T11:08:00.000+01:00Sounds like you're squirming a bit Iain!!! :)Sounds like you're squirming a bit Iain!!! :)Inamicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12568351031853796862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154922940797832006-06-01T10:42:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:42:00.000+01:00anonymous, - I assume you;re the same one as above...anonymous, - I assume you;re the same one as above, you win the prize. I was waiting to see who would be the first one to point that out. Again, I offered it as a comment - or a point of fact, just as I would expect you to point the same out had I been the candidate. Calm down, dear. It's only a by election!Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154829885547072006-06-01T10:40:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:40:00.000+01:00Tabman, er, that was a little joke. J O K E. Not s...Tabman, er, that was a little joke. J O K E. Not something LibDems are familiar with, I guess.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154747787276632006-06-01T10:39:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:39:00.000+01:00Anonymous (because they always are), I nearly reje...Anonymous (because they always are), I nearly rejected your comment because you haven't said who you are, but I thought it was so ridiculous I'd let it through. If you actually read what I wrote I didn't criticise her or him at all. I merely commented. A comment does notm equate to a criticism. Indeed, i was asking the question if that was LibDem Policy or not as I couldn't remember. Gutter politics indeed. But as a LibDem you;d know more about that than me. Are you listening Peter Black?Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154664576236152006-06-01T10:37:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:37:00.000+01:00Would you trust anyone who calls their daughter Ta...Would you trust anyone who calls their daughter Tamarrah, as Caroline Nokes has?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154552380142372006-06-01T10:35:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:35:00.000+01:00I also must say that I enjoyed Iain's comment that...I also must say that I enjoyed Iain's comment that there "was a 1.1% swing from the LibDems to the Conservatives" when Mr Abbott contested the last General Election. To say that without a trace of irony having just gone for the A-list following his hammering in North Norfolk takes some doing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149154327433266672006-06-01T10:32:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:32:00.000+01:00Hang on, even if Lib Dem policy was to abolish gra...Hang on, even if Lib Dem policy was to abolish grammar schools it is astonishingly low to criticise a candidate for being married to somebody who works in one. Firstly, we all need to earn a crust. Secondly, people who are against grammar schools merely believe that there are more effective systems for organising an educational system - they obviously don't think that grammar school teachers are in some way bad. Finally, this fellow is not his wife's keeper.<BR/><BR/>Yet more of Iain's favoured brand of gutter politics I am afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149153193545837952006-06-01T10:13:00.000+01:002006-06-01T10:13:00.000+01:00What's wrong with mis spelling a word? If it's sh...What's wrong with mis spelling a word? If it's shorter it saves ink so must be better for the planet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149151426178126042006-06-01T09:43:00.001+01:002006-06-01T09:43:00.001+01:00If the LibDim`s have their representatives stating...If the LibDim`s have their representatives stating their personal opinions, then why are we subjected to non-entities like Willis on education. If the party is too foolish to articulate policy then they should have no complaint when they are misrepresented or misunderstood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149148127320623182006-06-01T08:48:00.000+01:002006-06-01T08:48:00.000+01:00Ian, don't be a plonker. As I'm not on the A List ...<I>Ian, don't be a plonker. As I'm not on the A List I am not in a position to apply for any seat</I><BR/><BR/>Not quite so, Iain. The A-list system will not apply to Bromley and Chislehurst so that's one seat you could (should?) apply for ;-)Paul Linfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977920120772282561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149122231290095462006-06-01T01:37:00.000+01:002006-06-01T01:37:00.000+01:00"Andrea should be aware that the vote on the Educa..."Andrea should be aware that the vote on the Education Bill (which only applied to England by the way) had nothing to do with existing Grammar Schools but it was about introducing selection into existing non-selective schools. That is not a sensible way forward."<BR/><BR/>I was referring to David Chaytor's amendment and well, Mr Chaytor said if passed, it would have given parents the vote on whether existing grammar schools should remain.<BR/>I suppose Mr Chaytor knows what he wrote.<BR/>Here's a brief paper to explain various amendments, including Chaytor's one:<BR/>http://www.comprehensivefuture.org.uk/PDF/EducationBillAmendments.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149117573880638002006-06-01T00:19:00.000+01:002006-06-01T00:19:00.000+01:00"Let me make clear my opposition to selection in w...<I>"Let me make clear my opposition to selection in what ever form it takes. By ability. By aptitude. By specialism. Or by faith."</I><BR/><BR/>Does this also include by wealth, and the consequent abolition of private education, or is being rich a better reason to get a better education than being bright?ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462118851964861754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149114688352238982006-05-31T23:31:00.000+01:002006-05-31T23:31:00.000+01:00Last poster - just too, too boring!Last poster - just too, too boring!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149113831351946722006-05-31T23:17:00.000+01:002006-05-31T23:17:00.000+01:00Actually Liberal Democrat policy is made by Confer...Actually Liberal Democrat policy is made by Conference not by MPs. Phil Willis may consider selection to be archaic but that view was not enshrined in any motion nor was it in our 2005 manifesto. Essentially therefore I am correct, it is not English or Welsh party policy to abolish Grammar Schools. I do not believe that it is our policy to abolish faith schools either but as we are essentially talking about English policy here I am happy to be corrected with chapter and verse.<BR/><BR/>Oldsarum seems to be adopting the same trick, making up my supposed opposition to Grammar Schools and then criticising me for it. That is not my position. Andrea should be aware that the vote on the Education Bill (which only applied to England by the way) had nothing to do with existing Grammar Schools but it was about introducing selection into existing non-selective schools. That is not a sensible way forward.<BR/><BR/>We are called AMs for Assembly Members. The Welsh is AC for Aelod Cynulliad. We are not called Welsh Assembly Members because Welsh Assembly is not the official designation of the body I serve in. In the Government of Wales Act it is called the National Assembly for Wales and NAfWAM is a mouthful by anybody's standards.Peter Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16370260756872929021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149111175161939322006-05-31T22:32:00.000+01:002006-05-31T22:32:00.000+01:00I think he looks like Michael Atherton, though I'm...I think he looks like Michael Atherton, though I'm afraid I've no idea what that might mean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149109952840533762006-05-31T22:12:00.000+01:002006-05-31T22:12:00.000+01:00For bye elections the LDs operate an accelerated s...For bye elections the LDs operate an accelerated selection process - all on the LD parliamentary candidates association list are invited to apply. The selection is generally in the hands of the local party but I imagine there is a campaigns dept observer on the panel - the exception to this would be if the local party membership is below a certain threshold.Inamicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12568351031853796862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1149109021225017562006-05-31T21:57:00.000+01:002006-05-31T21:57:00.000+01:00Francis Maude (or someone) did say that the consti...Francis Maude (or someone) did say that the constituency wouldn't be limited to people on the A-list.<BR/><BR/>Apparently there are loads of constituencies that the A-list don't like the look of who are now desparate for candidates.ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462118851964861754noreply@blogger.com