tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post1147548322208517428..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Has Anyone Lost Fifteen Sheep?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78252648416534783562009-07-29T09:29:38.834+01:002009-07-29T09:29:38.834+01:00Anon 6:33. Classic. The government bureacracy just...Anon 6:33. Classic. The government bureacracy just grows and grows. Amazed that anyone stays farming at all.<br /><br />Did you try making some ewes milk cheese Iain?DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21594765608452765382009-07-28T18:33:10.484+01:002009-07-28T18:33:10.484+01:00@DespairingLiberal
"Will Iain need to regist...@DespairingLiberal<br /><br />"Will Iain need to register as an abbatoir, assuming he needs to slaughter?"<br /><br />If Iain wants to slaughter sheep for his own consumption only he wouldn't need to register as an abattoir. He would still need to dispatch them humanely. Strictly speaking he would also needed to dispose of any by-products (e.g. head and intestines) via an approved animal by-product company.*<br /><br />In theory he would need to keep a record of where and when they came (in this case 'found' with police ref no) plus date and place of slaughter. <br /><br />If the sheep were treated with any medicine while in his care he would need to record; date, dosage, batch no., date and place of purchase plus receipts. Along with any unused medicine (or a disposal receipt from an suitable animal pharmacy). This record would need to be kept for five years. Even if he didn't treat them he would be expected to demonstrate an appropriate log in which to record such information. <br /><br />He would need to keep the first record for at least three years, the second for five and have both available to inspection by trading standards at 24 hours notice.<br /><br />I assume he already has a CPH number from DEFRA for his other farming activities. Technically he should also register (and de-register) as a sheep keeper and submit a self-declaration of sheep numbers**.<br /><br />* a.k.a. knackers yard<br />**Trading standards usually advise you not to bother if your just minding found ones for a few days. If you started eating them they might change their tune though.<br /><br />@Neopeitha<br /><br />"Remember that the The Welfare of Animals (Transport)Order (2006) requires an Animal Transport Certificate to accompany animals being transported"<br /><br />Not for journies less than 65km, as long as the trailer conforms to the relevant regs. <br /><br />"Animal Movement Licence under the Sheep and Goats(Records, Identification and Movement) Order 2007"<br /><br />True, but if Iain was to kill 'n' eat them himself then no movement would have taken place. ;)<br /><br />(I am not a lawyer.)<br /><br />BTW, Iain, I'm glad they've been claimed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47848873401391564162009-07-28T17:26:35.051+01:002009-07-28T17:26:35.051+01:00Remember that the The Welfare of Animals (Transpor...Remember that the The Welfare of Animals (Transport)Order (2006) requires an Animal Transport Certificate to accompany animals being transported...<br /><br />And once moved, you'll also need to complete an Animal Movement Licence under the Sheep and Goats<br />(Records, Identification and Movement) Order 2007...Neopeithanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5299467885381343262009-07-28T16:25:38.206+01:002009-07-28T16:25:38.206+01:00Perhaps Little Bo Peep will turn up on your doorst...Perhaps Little Bo Peep will turn up on your doorstep very soon. She looked somewhat concerned when she asked me the directions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14139540595048944522009-07-28T16:15:26.443+01:002009-07-28T16:15:26.443+01:00Reminds me of a quotation (although can't reme...Reminds me of a quotation (although can't remember who said it!)<br /><br />"Whenever I'm in a restaurant I always order the Welsh lamb, in the hope that one day I'll get to the woolly bastard who keeps knocking my bin over!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63939379715419388442009-07-28T15:38:34.662+01:002009-07-28T15:38:34.662+01:00Anon 12:39. Crikey. There sure is a lot involved i...Anon 12:39. Crikey. There sure is a lot involved in keeping livestock these days. It's enough to make a Tory blogger develop a tic.<br /><br />Will Iain need to register as an abbatoir, assuming he needs to slaughter?DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1115647087151560332009-07-28T15:17:51.738+01:002009-07-28T15:17:51.738+01:00Bill Quango, LOL.
Major Plonquer, Likewise.
I su...Bill Quango, LOL.<br /><br />Major Plonquer, Likewise.<br /><br />I suspect that country gentleman Iain is going to try to milk them.<br /><br />If he can claim possession, he is entirely entitled to slaughter them himself for his own consumption.<br />Somehow, I don't see him doing that.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37908949537710345972009-07-28T15:17:46.349+01:002009-07-28T15:17:46.349+01:00Hi. I understand that the sheep come from a field ...Hi. I understand that the sheep come from a field at the bottom of Romford Road and Foxhole Lane they have been in most of the gardens in Romford Road this week. If I can find out more informsation I will let you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83574036322892628462009-07-28T14:35:05.305+01:002009-07-28T14:35:05.305+01:00Bloody Welsh squatters.........Bloody Welsh squatters.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54922794342448579432009-07-28T12:39:26.587+01:002009-07-28T12:39:26.587+01:00Round these parts 'tis usual to phone the BBC ...Round these parts 'tis usual to phone the BBC county radio to report 'found' livestock. Of course you have the problem of checking that whoever claims them is the real owner....<br /><br />I'm not a lawyer, but IIRC, you are allowed to charge for costs* (providing grazing, fodder etc.) So if they are not legitimately claimed when the cost of looking after them reaches their value you can sell them and use the cash for compensation.<br /><br />I presume their un-tagged? This is legal as long as they are under nine months and intended for slaughter in the UK. Round here lamb is currently selling at £1.50/kg. (The price has gone up this year due to an increase in exports after the devaluation of the pound).<br /><br />Also, this is the time of year for 'strike', when flies lay eggs in the wool of sheep which hatch into maggots and begin to eat the sheep. <br />Lambs are very prone to it. So I would look at them quietly from a distance everyday to see if (1) any are wagging their tails alot when not going to the toilet (2) bitting their sides. If one is I'd catch it straight away for a close look. Strike gets it's name from the quick way it kills.<br /><br />If it looks like your going to be hanging onto them for a while it might be wise to notify your local trading standards of your situation. Their the people who check-up that sheep keepers have the right paperwork so, in theory at least, could get cross if they find your keeping sheep without any. I hear they are understanding in situations like yours, but it's better to go to them rather than have them 'catch' you.<br /><br />* For short stays most folks are neighborly enough not to bother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84233554998948131932009-07-28T11:59:01.733+01:002009-07-28T11:59:01.733+01:00Typical Tory - stealing sheep from poor little far...Typical Tory - stealing sheep from poor little farmers to save you buying a lawnmower. Shame on you.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-92121311305033961142009-07-28T11:06:49.231+01:002009-07-28T11:06:49.231+01:00You sure they're not Labour back-benchers?You sure they're not Labour back-benchers?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11185118607847138472009-07-28T10:29:07.964+01:002009-07-28T10:29:07.964+01:00Are you sure that there are only 15 and that that ...Are you sure that there are only 15 and that that just wasn't the point you nodded off?Weygandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11359751090279735138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63437089730868420862009-07-28T10:28:53.016+01:002009-07-28T10:28:53.016+01:00As an antidote to the Welsh - Sheep humour which m...As an antidote to the Welsh - Sheep humour which many find offensive, I offer the following.<br /><br />An Australian and a Welshman were walking along a country lane when they spotted a sheep with it's head caught between two strands of wire fence. Without hesitation, the Australian takes advantage of the situation and subjects the sheep to an unnatural sexual act. <br /><br />Seeing the look of astonishment on the Welshman's face he asks "D'you want a go, mate?"<br /><br />The Welshman shrugs, drops his strides and fastens his head between the wires ...Strinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76679135785018605632009-07-28T10:16:41.495+01:002009-07-28T10:16:41.495+01:00Telegraph has more on expenses
Are the sheep just...Telegraph has more on expenses<br /><br />Are the sheep just extra "flocking"?Stronghold Barricadesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87521091394979950372009-07-28T10:11:58.270+01:002009-07-28T10:11:58.270+01:00If you're anywhere near Kent College, Pembury ...If you're anywhere near Kent College, Pembury then they might well be from the guy with the big gothic house in Half Moon Lane. We used to live near there and were always getting his sheep in our garden!<br /><br />Good luck<br /><br />JeannetteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73688554540275437672009-07-28T10:08:56.941+01:002009-07-28T10:08:56.941+01:00Perhaps they have been rustled and dropped with yo...Perhaps they have been rustled and dropped with you for collection at another time?Turkeybellyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87569413033523760412009-07-28T10:05:20.351+01:002009-07-28T10:05:20.351+01:00baaaaaaaaaaaa leeks!baaaaaaaaaaaa leeks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72334179705984056572009-07-28T09:58:06.284+01:002009-07-28T09:58:06.284+01:00They are mine. I was told that if I left them alon...They are mine. I was told that if I left them alone they would come home dragging their tails behind them.<br /><br />Please leave them alone.<br /><br />Miss PeepVictor, NW Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778890471547456396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30181871960372947912009-07-28T09:45:45.238+01:002009-07-28T09:45:45.238+01:00Q: How does a farmer find his sheep in long grass?...Q: How does a farmer find his sheep in long grass?<br /><br />A: Irresistible!<br /><br />IthankyouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83816389944551552352009-07-28T09:37:09.409+01:002009-07-28T09:37:09.409+01:00nothing about sheep on "Future Countryside&qu...nothing about sheep on "Future Countryside" other than the climate change tosh then ?<br />but seriously, why not ask Nick Herbert ? as DEFRA Spokesman he would know....wouldn't he ? I mean he's been given responsibility for woolly creatures as well as conservative woolly thinking.haddockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01890864334999930139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8515411118270163912009-07-28T09:30:21.177+01:002009-07-28T09:30:21.177+01:00Right altogether now..
"All We Like Sheep......Right altogether now..<br /><br />"All We Like Sheep...Have Gone Astray...." etc. etc.Choir Mistressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51861846814238518652009-07-28T09:18:38.493+01:002009-07-28T09:18:38.493+01:00Ah you have fallen for the wiley sheep free grazin...Ah you have fallen for the wiley sheep free grazing scam. After about a week a farmer will turn up to reclaim themCynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04852867933348403214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1241325960533204132009-07-28T08:57:02.845+01:002009-07-28T08:57:02.845+01:00Just for the Taffies here's another joke. A v...Just for the Taffies here's another joke. A variant was printed in the New Statesman so this one is obviously acceptable to the humourless lefties.<br /><br /><br /><br />An Englishman goes into a Welsh pub, and while he's waiting at the bar gets talking to one of the locals. [You can tell it's a joke, the pub hasn't gone silent as soon as he stepped through the door. He still hasn't been served at the bar though...]<br /><br />The Welshman says, "Here in Wales, right, we call eachother nicknames by what we do, see? Now, you look out of that window... Do you see that bridge over by there?" <br />"Yes," The Englishman replies. <br />"Well I built that," Says the Welshman, "But do they call me Dai The Bridge Builder? No they don't. Now... you see next to the bridge there's a church?" <br />"I can see it," Says the Englishman. <br />"Well I did the roof on that church, right, but do they call me Dai The Roofer? No they don't. Now if you'll just come over by here to the window, see, and look over there you can see that field. Now in that field there's a helicopter. I fly the air ambulance round here, right, for when people do get stuck on the mountain. But do they call me Dai The Pilot? No they don't. But you shag ONE sheep..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51003928819123722242009-07-28T08:45:01.838+01:002009-07-28T08:45:01.838+01:00"Do you ave a leesance for zees sheep?"
..."Do you ave a leesance for zees sheep?"<br /><br />"They're not my sheep..."<br /><br /><br />Maybe the Sheep are sovereign and not owned by anyone. <br /><br />Maybe they are a bunch of Militant Lesbian sheep camping out in protest at the leg of lamb you had the other week.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.com