tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post114010684423496777..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Legislative & Regulatory Reform Bill: A Slippery Slope?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140481217831230932006-02-21T00:20:00.000+00:002006-02-21T00:20:00.000+00:00As I understand it the real difference between a b...As I understand it the real difference between a bill and secondary legislation is that the latter is not necessarily brought to the floor of the house. With other reasonable duties the secondary legislation order might well be missed my interested MPs, whereas a bill, with time programmed in for debate is more likely to be spotted.<BR/><BR/>One safeguard in my opinion would cure the problem with this bill: any draft order must be laid before a committee, either one member of the committee or ten MPs can veto the regulation from going through without full debate.<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day a Govt with a majority can get it's way on anything, but there is debate and a record kept, that is all we can or should hope for with RRO procedures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140472278970192022006-02-20T21:51:00.000+00:002006-02-20T21:51:00.000+00:00I am 60 years old and have never been politically ...I am 60 years old and have never been politically active. This issue, however, has caused me such great concern that I have decided that I MUST do something. I've added a page to my personal web site (www.davidcowen.me.uk) and am encouraging christian organisations, such a The Christian Institute, to get moving on the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140179358844949972006-02-17T12:29:00.000+00:002006-02-17T12:29:00.000+00:00I also think (having been alerted to it by Finkels...I also think (having been alerted to it by Finkelstein's column and now actually read the Bill) that it is pretty fundamental and wide ranging. We now have the most dictatorial nannying government in history, with no care for minority rights (witness the hunting ban, smoking ban, 30 day detention) which is now also attempting to give itself the widest ranging powers in history to simply legislate without involving Parliament. It is also a disgrace that the Conservative Party is not being stronger in standing up for parliament and freedom. The last week or so has left me very depressed for the future of this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140167201177449672006-02-17T09:06:00.000+00:002006-02-17T09:06:00.000+00:00Quote from Winston CHURCHILL, The First Conservati...Quote from Winston CHURCHILL, The First Conservative Election Broadcast, 4 June 1945<BR/><BR/>"Socialism is, in its essence, an attack not only upon British enterprise, but upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy, tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils. A Free Parliament - look at that - a Free Parliament is odious to the Socialist doctrinaire. Have we not heard Mr. Herbert Morrison descant upon his plans to curtail Parliamentary procedure and pass laws simply by resolutions of broad principle in the House of Commons, afterwards to be left by Parliament to the executive and to the bureaucrats to elaborate and enforce by departmental regulations?"<BR/><BR/>Full text here<BR/>http://blognorregis.blogspot.com/2006/02/tagged-like-cattle.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140137282464851142006-02-17T00:48:00.000+00:002006-02-17T00:48:00.000+00:00Actually i'm not convinced having had a quick scan...Actually i'm not convinced having had a quick scan of the Bill itself that it is quite as apocalyptic as is being suggested. Certainly the comparision to Hitler's Enabling Act is hyperbolic rubbish. Will this be treated as a constitutional Bill and subject to going through its Committee stage as a Committee of the Whole House? This is usually a simple way of clarifying quite how fundamental the provisions are.Welsh Spinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14280675812673519659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140134690404220102006-02-17T00:04:00.000+00:002006-02-17T00:04:00.000+00:00It is the first i had heard of this issue. One of ...It is the first i had heard of this issue. One of the virtues of the British Parliamentary system is that outdated and anachronistic legislation can be repealed via consolidation Acts etc far more straightforwardly than in many other countries (eg the US).<BR/><BR/>SI's can of course be prayed against (unless this Bill goes even further than the post leads me to believe), but it is surely fundamental that Parliament is soverign and Acts of Parliament can only be abolished via Parliament.<BR/><BR/>My favorite boilerplate for doing so is the Book of Common Prayer:<BR/>"Where at the death of our late Sovereign Lord King Edward the Sixth, there remained one uniform Order of Common Service and Prayer, and of the Administration of Sacraments, Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England, which was set forth in one Book, intituled, The Book of Common Prayer, and Administration of Sacraments, and other Rites and Ceremonies in the Church of England, Authorized by Act of Parliament, holden in the fifth and sixth years of our said late Sovereign Lord King Edward the Sixth, intituled, An Act for the Uniformity of Common Prayer, and Administration of the Sacraments; The which was repealed, and taken away by Act of Parliament, in the first Year of the Reign of our late Sovereign Lady Queen Mary, to the great decay of the due honour of God, and discomfort to the Professors of the Truth of Christ's Religion: <BR/><BR/> Be it therefore Enacted by the Authority of this present Parliament, That the said Statute of Repeal and everything therein contained, only concerning the said Book and the Service, Administration of Sacraments, Rites, and Ceremonies contained or appointed in or by the said Book shall be void and of none effect, from and after the Feast of the Nativity of Saint John Baptist next coming."<BR/><BR/>Class ...Welsh Spinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14280675812673519659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140131102245738122006-02-16T23:05:00.000+00:002006-02-16T23:05:00.000+00:00You have contacts in the media and in tory hq... h...You have contacts in the media and in tory hq... have you considered making a fuss yourself?ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462118851964861754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140114574087844552006-02-16T18:29:00.000+00:002006-02-16T18:29:00.000+00:00part of the problem is the damnably slack drafting...part of the problem is the damnably slack drafting that goes into these bills - for a good summary see http://partyreptile.blogspot.com/2006/02/real-problem.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140107568075280392006-02-16T16:32:00.000+00:002006-02-16T16:32:00.000+00:00I'm just waiting for the Palace of Westminster to ...I'm just waiting for the Palace of Westminster to be burnt to the ground. Parliament will start meeting at the Royal Opera House. The bill will be passed to the sounds of Labour party supporters chanting "fire and murder" in the foyer and the strains of Horst Wessel in the background...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com