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Sunday, July 12, 2009

Marr Nails Griffin on Sinking Immigrant Boats

Iain Dale 10:09 AM

So, who saw Andrew Marr interviewing Nick Griffin this morning? I thought Marr asked him some good questions, without the normal hectoring and aggression which is normally the mark of interviews with Griffin. And in my view, although Griffin was quite eloquent, he dug himself deeper and deeper as the interview went on. Marr asked him if he had recently said that boats carrying illegal immigrants from North Africa across the Med should be sunk. He admitted that he had and although he tried to explain his way out of it, any credibility he had built up during the rest of the interview was shot to pieces.

Top 20 Blogger Twitterers

Iain Dale 8:44 AM

Six months ago I compiled a list of the Top 25 Blogger Twitterers, ranked by number of followers. This is the up to date list. It includes all bloggers I have managed to find who have more than 1,200 followers. If you click on each person's name, you will be led to their Twitter feed. If you want to follow them, just click on the FOLLOW button.

There are 7 right of centre bloggers (down from 11) in the Top 25, 8 left of centre (same as last time), and 1 LibDem (down one). The highest climber is Labour MP Sadiq Khan.

1. +4 Alastair Campbell 7849 (1180)
2. - Iain Dale 5023 (2061)
3. -2 Tom Watson MP 4633 (2065)
4. - Guido Fawkes 4362 (1183)
5.+3 John Prescott 4038 (822)
6. - Andrew Ian Dodge 3618 (1031)
7. +2 James Cleverly 3255 (778)
8. +12 Sadiq Khan 2392 (361)
9. -2 Next Left 2052 (869)
10. +3 Paul Dennett 1945 (580)
11. N Jonathan Sheppard 1917 (-)
12. N Toby Harnden 1780 (-)
13. +4 Tom Harris 1702 (417)
14. N Paul Waugh 1650 (-)
15. +7 Tim Montgomerie 1638 (346)
16. -6 Lynne Featherstone 1497 (681)
17. - Kerry McCarthy MP 1465 (-)
18. -4 Mick Fealty 1461 (362)
19. -7 Dave Hill 1437 (435)
20. -2 Craig Elder 1256 (390)


Note: I am updating this list throughout the day as I am notified of twitterers I had missed, who have got more than 1256 followers.

Saturday, July 11, 2009

The Daley Dozen: Saturday

Iain Dale 9:21 PM

1. Rupert Read on the mote in April Pond's eye.
2. Donal Blaney gives us a maths lesson.
3. Coffee House on Alistair Darling's emergence from the shadows.
4. Mark Reckons he is not very good at betting.
5. Cranmer explains why Christians should vote Tory.
6. Paul Waugh explains why Obama is Bill Clinton reincarnated.
7. Stephen Glenn teaches his fellow LibDem Irfan Ahmed - the Godfrey Bloom of the LibDems - a sexual lesson.
8. Charlie Elphicke on the Blue Blog on the merits of effective e-campaigning.
9. Guido thinks Damian McBride has got a job.
10. Benedict White on the teacher who snapped.
11. TrueBlueBlood on the British swine flu record.
12. Norfolk Blogger takes Craig Murray to task over his flyposting.

The Missing LibDem MPs

Iain Dale 8:47 AM

Much has been made this week by Nick Clegg of the lack of a strategy in Afghanistan and equipment shortages. He has taken the high moral ground and has started questioning why we are in Afghanistan, full stop. He's right to do so.

What a shame therefore that the two LibDem members of the Defence Select Committee couldn't be bothered to turn up for a meeting this week of the Committee on Wednesday, when ministers from the FCO, MoD, Dfid and senior military civil servants were giving evidence on operations in Afghanistan. Step forward Mike Hancock and Richard Younger-Ross.

Perhaps the LibDem chief whip might like to ask them what they were doing which was more important than quizzing government representatives on our strategy and military operations in Afghanistan.

Friday, July 10, 2009

The Things You Hear on the Doorstep

Iain Dale 9:24 PM

This afternoon I spent a few hours canvassing in the Thorpe St Andrew area of Norwich, along with nine or ten others, including for a time, the Conservative candidate Chloe Smith. It is one of the better areas for the Conservatives in the constituency, it has to be said, but I was pleasantly encouraged by the reception we were getting. There were a reasonable number of switchers. One of my favourite moments was meeting a real Norfolk good old boy who told me he was voting BNP. Why on earth would you do that, I asked? They're for Britain, aren't they? he replied. I then rabbited on about how they are nothing of the sort until I realised he was pulling my leg. He then said: "No, I am voting for the other BNP Party, you know, what are they called, British Independence Party or something?" "You mean UKIP," I said helpfully. He said he had been a Labour voter previously, but not votes UKIP. Except for local elections, when he votes Tory "because they look after us around here."

My other moment of the afternoon came when I knocked on a door and a 35 year old woman answered. Here's how the conversation went...

Me: Hello, I'm calling on behalf of Chloe Smith, your Conservative candidate in the by election.
Woman: Oh yes...
Me: I just wondered who you might be supporting in the election.
Woman: Oh my husband makes those decisions for me.
Me: Er, right. So you are not exactly a modern woman then!
Woman: No, I like to be a bit old fashioned. He tells me who to vote for.

And that's in the year 2009. It always shocks me to hear this, especially from a woman in her mid thirties. My mother tells me that on polling day in 1950 her father locked my grandmother in the toilet all day because she said she was not going to vote for the candidate he had instructed her to vote for. Understandable in a way, since she had announced she was voting Liberal... I jest.

I guess we'll know we have true equality when I canvass a man and he tells me it's his wife who decides who they vote for...

In the battle of the posters, I'd say that the Tories are a little ahead of the LibDems but not far. We saw a single Labour poster (terrible design). Chloe and Angela Browning said it was the first one they had seen during the whole campaign. Labour really do seem to be doing absolutely sweet FA in this campaign - apart from picking a candidate with a secret Tory past. Have they given up?

Tomorrow I'll be out in Taverham and Drayton stirring up apathy with Gillian Shephard and Keith Simpson.

Back to School

Iain Dale 11:30 AM

I can't tell you what a weird feeling this is. I have just been speaking to the sixth form at Saffron Walden County High School. It's the first time I have been back here since I left after my 'A' Levels 29 years ago. My old history teacher Bob Crossan had invited me and after the session he showed me round. The changes are astonishing. When I was there the school had about 1200 pupils on the roll. There are now more than 2000. The facilities are excellent and there was a really good atmosphere. I was however slightly disconcerted by the fact that half the sixth form were dressed in shorts and flip flops. That wouldn't have happened in 1980!

Bob was one of those teachers who really make a difference. He retires next year after 33 years at the school. It was great to see him again and rekindle some old memories.

Right, back to politics and the 90 minute drive to Norwich North!

April Pond Has a Moat!

Iain Dale 8:30 AM


Look at this leaflet from Broadland Norwich North candidate April Pond. She uses it to display her local credentials. Nothing wrong with that. From Norwich, For Norwich, is a damn good slogan. Except, that is, if you're trying to pretend you live in Norwich when you don't. Alas, on her nomination papers, April lists her address as Shelton Hall, which is not only not in Norwich, it is 15 miles away on the Suffolk border. It's a very nice house though. Google Earth shows that it even has a moat!


Not that I am being 'remoatly' 'moatist'. Every house should have one. But seeing as though a Tory MP got the mickey taken out of him for having one, I'm not sure LibDem candidates should escape the ridicule. It wouldn't be fair.

Ms Pond refused to sign a Clean Campaign pledge which had been drawn up by the Greens and the Tories. Could this be because she knew she would have to give a rather false impression of where she was living?

Or could it be because she knew her campaign managers would be spending the whole campaign smearing Green candidate Rupert Read as an extremist? Shameful.


Anyway, later this morning I am driving up to Norwich to do some by election campaigning today and tomorrow. I gather that all Tory candidates are supposed to clock in and out like schoolchildren and get forms signed. That won't be happening. What a shame my printer doesn't work.
Hattip for LibDem leaflet graphics to Norfolk Blogger

Thursday, July 09, 2009

Sorry, Newsnight

Iain Dale 8:00 PM

I now feel like an absolute heel. I just had to turn down going on Newsnight against John Prescott tonight. Why? Because I was already committed to doing the Sky News paper review at 11.30. To me, sticking to what I had promised was the honourable thing to do. The last thing I ever want to get is a reputation for ditching one programme for another, just because that programme is better known and has a higher rating. Suffice to say, the Newsnight producer was less than impressed. Just goes to show, you can't please all of the people all of the time. So instead of doing battle with John Prescott, I shall be on Sky with Labour peer Baroness Billingham. I may keep telling myself I have done the right and proper thing, but I reckon an invitation from Newsnight won't be winging its my way for some time.

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Quote of the Day

Iain Dale 11:30 AM


"What's the first thing you do when you get into government?
Don't appoint someone like Gordon Brown as chancellor.
"
Derek Scott, 9/7/09
Chief Economic Adviser to Tony Blair 1997-2003

Thursday Open Thread

Iain Dale 8:28 AM

You may think this rather convenient bearing in mind the story below, but there won't be any updates to this blog until Thursday evening as I am chairing a conference all day and am unlikely to be free until 7pm. I may well use Twitter to impart a few pearls, but I'm afraid that's all I can promise today. If you want to follow me on Twitter click HERE.

In the meantime, use this thread to discuss the news topics of the day. Please don't abuse the hospitality. Someone is monitoring the comments and will take action if need be.

Guardian Targets Coulson in Bugging Story

Iain Dale 12:07 AM

I have just got in and read the Guardian story about the News of the World's bugging activities. They are doing their utmost to drag Andy Coulson into it. Clearly, we don't know the facts of the situation at the moment. Andy Coulson has already pointed out that he wasn't even editor of the paper when some of this happened. The second weakness in the Guardian's case against Coulson - and indeed for those Labour MPs who are apparently likening him to Damian McBride - is that none of this has happened during his employment by the Conservative Party.

However, let's get real and not pretend that this story isn't potentially damaging. Alastair Campbell has thrown in his twopennyworth of advice to Coulson and David Cameron. Like Tim Montgomerie, I think it is sound advice...
It is not my place to advise Cameron, or Coulson. But if it were, I would be saying to Cameron to find out very quickly whether Coulson did act in any way improperly, and to act accordingly if he thinks he did. And if I were Coulson, I would be totally honest with Cameron to help him make that decision. When the Damian McBride emails first surfaced, it was obvious where it was going to end. If Cameron thinks that this situation might also end in him having to lose his right-hand man, better to do it quickly.

Contrary to popular rumour, I don't know Andy Coulson well. I'm sure many of you think he gives me my marching orders on a daily basis, but I think I have met him three times and spoken to him a couple of times on the phone. But I know a good adviser when I see one. He's done a terrific job since he was appointed to the job two years ago and everyone I know will be hoping he comes through this. Everyone I know who knows him better than I do likes him. He's not a showy adviser. For someone who came into the job with a high media profile, he has done well to stay out of the limelight. He will be cringing at 'becoming the story' because he knows that there are sometimes dangerous consequences when that happens. Ask Alastair Campbell.

The key thing is for this story to be addressed head on. And fast. David Cameron is reported to be 'relaxed' about it. That may be because, like any responsible employer, he did his due diligence on Andy Coulson before he was appointed.

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Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Was David Davis Right?

Iain Dale 6:10 PM

Last night David Davis caused a minor storm in the House of Commons when he used parliamentary privilege to accuse MI5 of indulging in what he called 'passive rendition'. He alleged that they had allowed a terrorist suspect, Rangzieb Ahmed, to travel to Pakistan, and then encouraged the Pakistani authorities to arrest him and then, while questioning him, they tortured him. He believes MI5 to be complicit in that torture. Ahmed was returned to this country, where he was arrested, tried and convicted. Here's an extract of his speech from Hansard...
In the last year, there have been at least 15 cases of British citizens or British residents claiming to be tortured by foreign intelligence agencies with the knowledge, complicity and, in some cases, presence of British intelligence officers. One case—that of Binyam Mohammed—has been referred to the police by the Attorney-General, which implies that there is at least a prima facie case to answer. The most salient others include Moazzamm Begg, Tariq Mahmoud, Salahuddin Amin and Rashid Rauf, all in Pakistan, Jamil Rahman in Bangladesh, Alam Ghafoor in United Arab Emirates, and Azhar Khan and others in Egypt.

For each case, the Government have denied complicity, but at the same time fiercely defended the secrecy of their actions, making it impossible to put the full facts in the public domain, despite the clear public interest in doing so. Although the combined circumstantial evidence of complicity in all these cases is overwhelming, it has not so far been possible—because of the Government’s improper use of state secrecy to cover up the evidence—to establish absolutely clear sequences of cause and effect.

In 2005-06, Rangzieb Ahmed was a suspected terrorist who was kept under surveillance for about a year before leaving the country to go first to Dubai and on a subsequent trip to Pakistan. During that time, evidence was collected against him, on the basis of which he was later convicted. Let me repeat that point, as it is very important to my subsequent argument—during that time, evidence was collected, on the basis of which he was subsequently convicted.

Despite the authorities having that evidence, he was—astonishingly—not arrested but instead allowed to leave the country. To understand how odd this decision was, we should remember that this was only a year after the tragedy of 7/7, after which agencies were criticised for allowing terrorist suspects to leave the country to go to Pakistan. Since they knew he was leaving, since they knew where he was going, and since they had more than enough evidence to arrest him, allowing him to leave was clearly deliberate. That the authorities knew his itinerary is demonstrated by the fact that he was kept under surveillance when he was in Dubai. He later went on to Pakistan, where the Pakistani authorities were warned of his arrival by the British Government. The British intelligence agencies wrote to their opposite numbers in Pakistan—the members of the directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence—suggesting that they arrest him. I use the word “suggest” rather than “request” or “recommend” because of the peculiar language of the ISI’s communication No doubt the Minister can confirm that for himself by asking to see the record.

We also know that the intelligence officer who wrote to the Pakistanis did so in full knowledge of the normal methods used by the ISI against terrorist suspects that it holds. That is unsurprising, as it is common public knowledge in Pakistan. The officer would therefore be aware that “suggesting” arrest was equivalent to “suggesting” torture.

Rangzieb Ahmed was arrested by the ISI on 20 August 2006. Once he was taken into custody in Pakistan by the ISI, the Manchester police and MI5 together created a list of questions to be put to him. MI5 arranged for those questions to be given to the ISI.

Rangzieb Ahmed was viciously tortured by the ISI. He says, among other things, that he was beaten with wooden staves the size of cricket stumps and whipped with a 3 ft length of tyre rubber nailed to a wooden handle, and that three fingernails were removed from his left hand. There is a dispute between Ahmed and British intelligence officers about exactly when his fingernails were removed, but an independent pathologist employed by the Crown Prosecution Service confirmed that it happened during the period when he was in Pakistani custody.

Rangzieb was asked questions, under torture, about the UK by ISI officers. He claims that he saw “UK/Pakistan Secret” on the question list used by the ISI. That was presumably the list put together by the Manchester police and MI5. After about 13 days, he was visited by an officer from MI5 and another from MI6. He claims to have told them, during questioning, that he had been tortured. They deny that, but it is significant that they did not return for further interviews. By that stage, MI5 policy was not to return after any interview in which the subject claimed that he had been tortured. The British agents did not return, but Rangzieb was subsequently questioned by Americans.

Is it also an extraordinary, if sinister, coincidence that the Manchester police accessed Rangzieb Ahmed’s medical records within days of the MI5/MI6 interview? Why would they do that if he was in perfect health?

The authorities know full well that this story is an evidential showcase for the policy of complicity in torture, should that evidence ever come out. One way in which the in camera veil of secrecy might be lifted would be a civil case by Mr. Ahmed against the Government for their complicity in torture. Part of that process would involve challenging the in camera rulings and revealing the details of agency involvement. Just such a case was being considered by Mr. Ahmed, and on 20 April this year he was visited in prison by his solicitor and a specialist legal adviser to discuss it.

Mr. Ahmed tells us that a week later he was visited by an officer from MI5 and a policeman. That is the story told today on the front pages of the Daily Mail and The Guardian. During the course of their visit they said that they would like him to help in the fight against terror with information about extremism. This is perfectly proper.

However, the sinister part of this visit was an alleged request to drop his allegations of torture: if he did that, they could get his sentence cut and possibly give him some money. If this request to drop the torture case is true, it is frankly monstrous. It would at the very least be a criminal misuse of the powers and funds under the Government's Contest strategy, and at worst a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

I would normally be disinclined to believe the word of a convicted terrorist. However, when he initially told his lawyer about it, he did not want to pursue the matter. Also, in common with many other criminals, after the scandal of the taping of the current Minister of State, Department for Transport, the right hon. Member for Tooting (Mr. Khan), on a prison visit, he believes all these meetings are taped and he says this will back him up...

Let me conclude by saying that our handling of the subject of torture has, in my view, been completely wrong. The Americans have made a clean breast of their complicity, while explicitly not prosecuting the junior officers who were acting under instruction at a time of enormous duress and perceived threat after 9/11. We have done the opposite.

The battle against terrorism is not just a fight for life; it is a battle of ideas and ideals. It is a battle between good and evil, between civilisation and barbarism. In that fight, we should never allow our standards to drop to those of our enemies. We cannot defend our civilisation by giving up the values of that civilisation.

If you want to read the full speech, you can do so HERE. It is quite something to accuse your own government and its authorities of being complicit in torture. The Minister who replied, Ivan Lewis, made a valiant effort of denying the accusations, and I dare say he believed the case he was given to read out. But even if only a few of Davis's allegations are true, what does it say about the way MI5 is operating? Is there really any political control exerted?

I am sure that there will be many readers of this blog who will take the view that Ahmed got what was coming to him. He was convicted of terrorist offences, so why should we care about a bit of fingernail pulling? That's a very dangerous path to travel and it goes against the very freedoms we are surely seeking to protect.

So what do you think? Should David Davis have used parliamentary privilege to make these accusations? Is this further evidence of a security service which is out of control? Or is this just a natural by product of a war on terror?

Tickets for the Tory Conference Pride Party - Book Now!

Iain Dale 2:49 PM


If you are attending the Tory conference and fancy a night out in Canal Street at the Conference Pride Party, I hope to see you there. Tickets are £15 and can be ordered HERE.

CF have a Facebook page for the event HERE.

PMQs Review

Iain Dale 12:37 PM

Harriett Harman put in quite an impressive performance at PMQs today, when she was up against William Hague. She seemed more assured than in the past. Of course, what she was saying was total and utter rubbish, but she said it with some panache. Hague seems reluctant to go in for the kill with Harman. You can tell he's on the verge of it, but can never quite bring himself to inflict any verbal violence on her. His questions and retorts were all rather good, but Harman managed to get through them without too many mishaps.

Vince Cable almost stole the show with a remark about Harman lecturing Silvio Berlusconi on the merits of gender equality.

The two most difficult questions for Harman came towards the end from senior Tory backbenchers Richard Ottaway and John Maples. Ottaway reminded her than no Labour government has ever left power with unemployment lower than when it came to office. A year ago, the Prime Minister had said it wouldn't happen on his watch. Harman flailed around saying that no previous Labour government had had to cope with a global downturn like the one which has just happened. It was a weak response. Maples asked Harman what our mission was in Afghanistan. Her answer was weak and uninformative.

Lastly, she appeared to say the government would look sympathetically at the reintroduction of the Dock Labour Scheme following a question from Great Yarmouth MP Tony Wright. Or maybe I misheard.

But overall, it was probably Harriett Harman's best performance so far at PMQs.

William Hague 6
Harriett Harman 7
Vince Cable 7

WSJ Says Brown's Bailout Measures Have largely Failed

Iain Dale 10:50 AM

A reader has drawn my attention to THIS article from the Wall Street Journal, which pours a lot of cold water on the government's economic 'rescue'.
Six months after the U.K. government scrambled to launch new bailout measures for Britain's foundering banks and economy, several of those efforts are languishing with few takers.

In January, for example, the British government created a guarantee program meant to revive the dormant market for asset-backed securities. The program aims to spur purchases of banks' asset-back securities, or bundled consumer loans, by guaranteeing them for buyers.

The guarantees were made available in April, but since then, none of the major U.K. banks has issued a security with such a guarantee. Bankers say it is too expensive; the government says the program is under review. So far, no changes to its terms have been made, and the program is set to expire in October.

The flop is among several misfires by the U.K. government in recent months among programs that haven't drawn interest from the banks and businesses they were intended to help. An effort to give firms trade insurance, for example, has seen only limited participation. The same is true of a loan guarantee for small businesses, which has been disregarded because it requires owners to put their own collateral on the line.

The snubbed bailout programs are a testament to the difficult balancing act governments face when attempting to aid their financial sectors and economies: They don't want to give banks and businesses a free ride, but fail to accomplish anything if their terms are not attractive enough.


It's worth reading the article in full, because you can be sure that's what a lot of potential investors in the UK will be doing. I don't think it will be encouraging them to put their money into this country. I've said all along that restoring economic confidence is the main task of the government, as few people will want to risk their money in an economy which looks risky. The level of deficit spending is another factor in a potential investor's decision. Many still believe that our credit rating is in danger. If we lose our triple AAA rating then all bets will be off. It hardly bears thinking about.

Move Along Now, Nothing to See

Iain Dale 1:16 AM

The new editor of Newsnight has replied to my post from Monday, which critiqued the Dragon's Pen section the programme which featured four Labour sympathising personalities. His general attitude is 'move along now, nothing to see' and how each of them wasn't really that left wing. The day the BBC ever features a programme featuring myself, Tim Montgomerie, Danny Finkelstein and Fraser Nelson is the day I will admit he has a point. And pigs might fly. Read what he has to say HERE.

UPDATE: Tim Montgomerie has fisked Peter Rippon's defence HERE. Tim writes:
"Speaking to one of Newsnight's team yesterday they admitted that the programme had "F**ked up". We'd all respect the BBC more if they admitted mistakes more readily rather than attempting to defend the indefensible."

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